Stiphodon genus of the Goby

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Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Postby Karim Li » Tue Feb 23, 2016 7:43 am

HI odyssey
Thanks for ur reply, I went to west Java of Indo with my fisher man last year, and I have found some goby if possible I can send u some picture by email, some of it after I discuss with our team member could not know, hope u can help us.
The Stiphodon.sp "Raibow-color" and Stiphodon.sp orange fin all from Sumatra island I plan go there on March or Aprial to found more goby, because I found there are only this tow types goby export to China and Janpan, I did not see any one eales from that island so my Indo friend suggest me to visit the fisher there and go different river to find more types.
and also Halmahera Island I will visit after island Sumatra, by the way what do u think about Sangihe Island? is also the island in north of Indo.
For Stiphodon percnopterygionus do u think can find in the north of Indo? I know Taiwan has a lot of Stiphodon percnopterygionus group, but I still try to find if they have in Indo.
Please let me know if I can have ur email, because as u know China block a lot of website and I am also hard to put pics here.
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Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Postby odyssey » Fri Feb 26, 2016 8:53 am

Karim Li wrote: Please let me know if I can have ur email, because as u know China block a lot of website and I am also hard to put pics here.



Because a private email system is prepared in this forum, please try it
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Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Postby sj861008 » Sun Feb 28, 2016 10:46 pm

hi Odyssey,
Can you distinguish between S.atratus and S.ornatus ,it is Too difficult for me.
and,i found a problem:Sicyopus zosterophorum Is different in different watershed performance,The most obvious difference is that the first dorsal fin eye spot(S. zosterophorum from Sulawesi have the eye spot and S. zosterophorum from Taiwan does not ), Have you found that?
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Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Postby odyssey » Tue Mar 08, 2016 9:03 am

sj861008 wrote:Can you distinguish between S.atratus and S.ornatus ,it is Too difficult for me.

Hi sj861008!

In fact, according to the book of "Indo-Pacific Sicydiine Gobies" of last note, S.atratus seems to have been unified by S.pelewensis!
Though I thought that I found the S.atratus in Australia with much effort, I'm disappointed to hear that S.atratus is the same species with S.pelewensis.
The habitation domain of S.pelewensis seems to be considerably large.

Becouse the variation of the appearance of S.ornatus is very large.
I do not have confidence to distinguish S.pelewensis from S.ornatus without habitat information.
I have no objection in particular even if it would be said that S.pelewensis is included in S.ornatus.

sj861008 wrote:and,i found a problem:Sicyopus zosterophorum Is different in different watershed performance,The most obvious difference is that the first dorsal fin eye spot(S. zosterophorum from Sulawesi have the eye spot and S. zosterophorum from Taiwan does not ), Have you found that?

I have not noticed such the difference
However, the habitat of S.zosterophorum is vast from the Northern hemisphere to the Southern Hemisphere.
The statistical comparison of enough many individuals will be necessary to prove that it is not simple individual difference .
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Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Postby sj861008 » Wed Mar 09, 2016 12:02 am

hi Odyssey
I recently got this book, according to your prompt I checked, the situation is really like this。
and about S.zosterophorum,i have a picture from youtube,here is the website:
http://photo.blog.sina.com.cn/photo/5350108038/005Q4vv8gy6ZYuNVqWi8e
Thank you so much for your explanation.
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Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Postby Taddei01 » Mon Mar 21, 2016 9:36 am

Hi Odyssey,

This thread is wonderful and I am very glad I found it.
I am currently putting together a stiphodon tank and I have a question for you.
What substrate do you use? your substrate appears to be small white and clear rocks, but I was wondering if there is a specific name for it. Thank you for your time!!
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Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Postby odyssey » Tue Mar 22, 2016 9:21 am

Hi Taddei01, Wellcome to LOL!

Taddei01 wrote:What substrate do you use? your substrate appears to be small white and clear rocks, but I was wondering if there is a specific name for it.


Quartz sand(Silica) is most.
However various kinds of sand are mixed in the bottom sand of my water tank during long time.
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Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Postby odyssey » Sat Apr 16, 2016 4:34 am

I traveled to the Okinawa Island in the southern part of Japan in November of the last year.
Okinawa area is a subtropical climate.
I took several Stiphodon's pictures and video there.

Stiphodon percnopterygionus

Video clips in Youtube
school of S.percnopterygionus
https://youtu.be/Fo5LI7Kl7nY
S.percnopterygionus (blue)
https://youtu.be/J8Oc7itajMc
S.percnopterygionus (blue & red)
https://youtu.be/7sWazEMNNAA
Courtship action of S.percnopterygionus
https://youtu.be/5vur66KIdgY

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Stiphodon atropurpureus
https://youtu.be/eMwrfBqHIvA
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S.percnopterygionus S.atropurpureus S.alcedo
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Sicyopus zosterophorum
https://youtu.be/llgF8SMiD6Y
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Lentipes armatus
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Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Postby sj861008 » Sat Apr 16, 2016 10:50 pm

hi odyssey,beautiful picture,thank you. and i have a problem:I remember you have been to Bali Island ,Have you found Stiphodon atropurpureus from Japan(Including Taiwan) is different from Bali(Indonesia)about Their body color?I found that S.atropurpureus from Japan(Including Taiwan)is purple,and S.atropurpureus from Indonesia is green
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About body color

Postby odyssey » Sun Apr 17, 2016 12:19 am

I was not able to watch Stiphodn in Bali.

About body color:
Because the male color of the body of Stiphodon changes variously, I think that it is unreliable.
It's possible to change the male body color of Stiphodon intentionally.
Furthermore the color development greatly changes by the situation of the light at the time of the photography.
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Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Postby sj861008 » Mon Apr 18, 2016 12:16 am

Thank you for your reply, for these, the information is too little on the Internet
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Stiphodon in Pohnpei island of Micronesia

Postby odyssey » Sat Jul 30, 2016 10:23 pm

Hi everyone!
I traveled to the Micronesian Pohnpei Island in July.
I visited three rivers and waterfalls in Pohnpei island and was able to encounter Stiphodon caeruleus and Stiphodon pelewensis.

https://www.google.co.jp/maps/place/Fed ... 0716?hl=en

Stiphodon caeruleus in Pohnpei island

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Stiphodon caeruleus 1
https://youtu.be/XrQiSwY09bs
Stiphodon caeruleus 2
https://youtu.be/e3H217aWXYo
Stiphodon caeruleus 3
https://youtu.be/9fKUa5OEXcs

Sahwartik waterfall
https://youtu.be/gWuA2lGVnwg

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The middle line of its forehead turns into black and metallic blue from white under conditions of light
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Stiphodon pelewensis in Pohnpei island

Youtube video clips
Stiphodon pelewensis 1
https://youtu.be/u0dloDvvH8Y
Stiphodon pelewensis 2
https://youtu.be/yybNQ8BOOCA
Kepirohi waterfall
https://youtu.be/LAW86DMsnAk

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Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Postby sj861008 » Mon Aug 01, 2016 9:22 pm

Hi odyssey,Beautiful pictures and videos,thank you for share,
I was the first time to see Stiphodon caeruleus ,it is so amazing。
about S.pelewensis,I find it very big,What is the length of it?and does that blue face guy in the Estrus?
I like seeing a sicyopterus in one of these videos,do you know which genus ?
Last question:You haven't been to Sumatra?the habitat of Stiphodon ornatus。
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Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Postby odyssey » Tue Aug 02, 2016 7:24 am

Hi sj861008
sj861008 wrote:about S.pelewensis,I find it very big,What is the length of it?and does that blue face guy in the Estrus?
I like seeing a sicyopterus in one of these videos,do you know which genus ?
Last question:You haven't been to Sumatra?the habitat of Stiphodon ornatus。

The most large size of Stiphodon pelewensis which I saw was probably 6-7cm.
Blue face is male's typical estrus expression of Stiphodon genus.

I uploaded Sicyopterus lividus pictures in the following thread in this forum.
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=19110&start=75#p203696

You can find other picture in this page.
http://www.comfsm.fm/~brianl/tropical.html

Sicyopterus lividus and Stiphodon caeruleus are endemic species of the Micronesia.
They are known only in 2 adjacent islands.

I have not yet been to Sumatra.
Becaus Sumatra island is too big and cannot communicate in English, it is difficult to search without local support.
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Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Postby sj861008 » Tue Aug 02, 2016 10:21 pm

Hi odyssey,I am longing for your life.I plan to go there next year.and thank you for share these。
by the way ,Do you use social software?facebook ,Twitter or instagram ?Could you introduce to me? :lol:
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