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Tanichthys thacbaensis-new white cloud species

Postby Jim Powers » Sat Sep 17, 2011 10:07 pm

Has anyone heard of or seen this fish?
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Re: Tanichthys thacbaensis-new white cloud species

Postby Emma Turner » Sun Sep 18, 2011 12:59 pm

One of our suppliers started listing a new wild-caught minnow last week, but he just called it Lemon White Cloud Mountain Minnow (Tanichthys sp. 'lemon'). The pic he sent was a bit blurry and just looked like a washed out regular white cloud. No idea if these are the new species you mention or not?

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Re: Tanichthys thacbaensis-new white cloud species

Postby Jim Powers » Sun Sep 18, 2011 1:09 pm

Some of the online fish suppliers have listed this and the word is that it is Tanichthys thacbaensis which is supposedly a new species from Vietnam. I have yet to find a pic of the species.
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Re: Tanichthys thacbaensis-new white cloud species

Postby Graeme Robson » Sun Sep 18, 2011 1:22 pm

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Re: Tanichthys thacbaensis-new white cloud species

Postby ch.koenig » Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:16 pm

the description is in vietnamese. hoped to get it for the pics. no chance so far.
it' not on "my" list so far.
can't you get better pics, Emma? would be great.
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Re: Tanichthys thacbaensis-new white cloud species

Postby Matt » Wed Sep 21, 2011 3:56 am

I've heard that the images are of little help, but would still love to see that paper! Think all the fish in the link you posted are T. micagemmae though Graeme?
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Re: Tanichthys thacbaensis-new white cloud species

Postby Graeme Robson » Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:16 am

Yeah, think they probably are. :? Emma has ordered a few of the Lemon Tanichthys for next week, so we'll try for pics then.
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Re: Tanichthys thacbaensis-new white cloud species

Postby Emma Turner » Tue Sep 27, 2011 4:14 pm

The Tanichthys 'lemon' did not turn up. Most probably because I ordered too many loaches and there wasn't room in the box! Will try again next time.

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Re: Tanichthys thacbaensis-new white cloud species

Postby ch.koenig » Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:26 pm

my try is going on by now, Emma. If you look at the lists it's not a shame to order to many loaches :) and bettas. hope I didn't do the same "error".
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Re: Tanichthys thacbaensis-new white cloud species

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Re: Tanichthys thacbaensis-new white cloud species

Postby Jim Powers » Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:02 pm

That is a beauty!
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Re: Tanichthys thacbaensis-new white cloud species

Postby ch.koenig » Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:57 am

nice looking specimen indeed, Jim.
But all in all: regarding the fact that the "yellow" tanichthys on the stock lists have never been delivered to Emma or to Germany is not a good answer to the question if t. thacbaensis or not. the fact that two pics are to be seen of the "new" species, once as t. sp "yellow", once as t. thacbaensis (on a website with no reference and a certain lack of know-how on the genus - the question is not anlbonubes or not - , on the other hand pretending to have "informations" on details as temperature) make me think somebody is taking us around. in any case it's not the way it works in commercial trade.
t. micagemmae show a certain range of different colouring during growth and natural "long-finned" specimen are known.
I'm still waiting for the ordered Tanichthys yellow to judge.
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Re: Tanichthys thacbaensis-new white cloud species

Postby anubiasdesign » Sun Feb 26, 2012 9:13 am

I got these in through Singapore last year as lemon white clouds. The pic in the previous post was the right fish. I kept half a dozen for myself but haven't had a chance to set them up to spawn yet.

I got a list from an exporter in Viet Nam this week that lists both T. micagemmae and T. micagemmae sp. I'm hoping the latter will prove to be this fish and do plan to order it.
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Tanichthys sp "Vietnam"

Postby ch.koenig » Fri May 04, 2012 6:00 am

Hi all
the mistery about the "yellow" Tanichthys is solved. In AMAZONAS 41 Mai/June 2012 Ingo Seidel shows pics of the new species, pics of eggs and fry inclusive.
The species has been found by Mikael Hakànson/Imazo and Saigon Aquarium in 2009 Da Nang province in Vietnam. Specimen have been exported by Saigon Aquarium to Europe in 2010. The species is easy to breed, but no exports are to be expected furthermore.
The species is not identic with T. thacbaensis.
Seems Jörg Bohlen is at work for the description since 2010. So we are waiting.
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Re: Tanichthys thacbaensis-new white cloud species

Postby Jim Powers » Fri May 04, 2012 10:16 am

Thanks for that update. I somehow missed that in Amazonas. I'll have to go back and look at that issue again.
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