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Rosy loach has been bred

Post by daspricey » Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:08 pm

Eine Schmerle zum Züchten: die Myanmar-Zwergschmerle (Yunnanilus sp.)

Yes, it was bred in Germany, this is the translated page,

http://translate.google.co.uk/translate ... n&ie=UTF-8

It's hard to make out half to article. I just hope i've interpreted it all right and rosy loaches HAS been bred to save me looking like a fool. :lol:

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Post by helen nightingale » Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:14 pm

David, when i looked, it said there wasnt an article :(

great news though :D

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Post by daspricey » Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:17 pm

Yeah your right. If you go down to loaches (13) on the left towards the bottom you will see articles in a blog romat about breeding batik loaches, then sewellia, and then the article i tried to link to. :)

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Post by Graeme Robson » Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:25 pm

Very nice!! Thanks David. 8)

I see that they are in with fellow habitat fish like the Danio margaritatus.

Full article :arrow: http://translate.google.co.uk/translate ... n&ie=UTF-8
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Post by Emma Turner » Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:29 pm

Arrrg, I can't get the links to show anything. :cry: But this is great news all the same. :D

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Post by daspricey » Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:40 pm

Article,

read carphunters post.

They have a couple of fry pics too, i print screened them to avoid any copyright issues,

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Post by janma » Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:43 pm

Thats excellent news!!
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Post by carphunter57 » Thu Jul 31, 2008 4:22 pm

Quick google translation.


April 22, 2008
A breeding Schmerle to the Myanmar-Zwergschmerle (Yunnanilus sp.) A breeding Schmerle to the Myanmar-Zwergschmerle (Yunnanilus sp.)
Category: BSSW report, husbandry and breeding, loaches - Marc - 10:37 pm Category: BSSW report, husbandry and breeding, loaches - Marc - 10:37 pm

SZIPL of Georgine and Sven Vogler, Hamburg - appeared in BSSW Report 4-2007 SZIPL of Georgine and Sven Vogler, Hamburg - appeared in BSSW Report 4-2007

Yunnanilus sp. Loaches are a very successful fish family, Europe, Asia and North Africa with a variety of species populated. Loaches are a very successful fish family, Europe, Asia and North Africa with a variety of species populated. Most species inhabit only small-scale habitats, many large common forms are as complex similar species have been identified. Most species inhabit only small-scale habitats, many large common forms are as complex similar species have been identified. Constantly are not only for the aquarium, but also to science discovered new species. Constantly are not only for the aquarium, but also to science discovered new species. These new discoveries include the Art presented These include the new discoveries presented Art

As recently described Begleitfisch the Galaxy Zwergbärblinge (Celestichthys margaritatus ROBERTS, 2007), including a Schmerle from the genus Yunnanilus mentioned (ROBERTS 2007, EVERS 2007). As recently described Begleitfisch the Galaxy Zwergbärblinge (Celestichthys margaritatus ROBERTS, 2007), including a Schmerle from the genus Yunnanilus mentioned (ROBERTS 2007, EVERS 2007). Indeed, were in an import shipment of nearly two and a half Celestichthys addition to a handful of Microrasbora cf rubescens colourless some small fish. Indeed, were in an import shipment of nearly two and a half Celestichthys addition to a handful of Microrasbora cf rubescens colourless some small fish. Three of them were in our home aquarium of 100 x 40 x 50 centimeters, which is already Celestichthys margaritatus of 20 and six Hara jerdoni inhabited. Three of them were in our home aquarium of 100 x 40 x 50 centimeters, which is already Celestichthys margaritatus of 20 and six Hara jerdoni inhabited. A horde of kopfstarke dwarf shrimp (cf. Caridina babaulti) to be used as Algenfresser the green filamentous algae brief, but they proliferate in dense flocks of Limnophila, Vallisneria, and Pogostemon Moorkienholz out. A horde of kopfstarke dwarf shrimp (cf. Caridina babaulti) to be used as Algenfresser the green filamentous algae brief, but they proliferate in dense flocks of Limnophila, Vallisneria, and Pogostemon Moorkienholz out.

The water courtship behavior of around 230 S / cm by an external filter, the filter included with the masses of the company stock is moving. The water of around 230 S / cm by an external filter, the filter included with the masses of the company stock is moving. In the filter circuit is a UV Entkeimer. In the filter circuit is a UV Entkeimer. Carbon dioxide is a Sinterglasausströmer during the lighting zwölfstündigen phase (2 x 30 watt fluorescent tubes in the coverage) admitted that the amount is after viewing a CO2-duration tests with liquid indicator. Carbon dioxide is a Sinterglasausströmer during the lighting zwölfstündigen phase (2 x 30 watt fluorescent tubes in the coverage) admitted that the amount is after viewing a CO2-duration tests with liquid indicator.

The wholesale fish tanks colorless showed the aquarium on a light background drawing from a small irregular points above a standing points from dense dark Laterallinie educated. The wholesale fish tanks colorless showed the aquarium on a light background drawing from a small irregular points above a standing points from dense dark Laterallinie educated. Without problems they thought in terms of size suitable food. Without problems they thought in terms of size suitable food. We feed primarily with a fine dry pellets and small Wasserflöhen. We feed primarily with a fine dry pellets and small Wasserflöhen. On physical size soon we tried to identify gender differences, but without success. On physical size soon we tried to identify gender differences, but without success. So maybe the question of identity clarify: What did we do? So maybe the question of identity clarify: What did we do? Three couple Barteln fin rays and we had an animal in the transport bag recognized. Three couple Barteln fin rays and we had an animal in the transport bag recognized. Thereafter, it is a Schmerle. Thereafter, it is a Schmerle. With the key www.fishbase.org available for the Asian Schmerlengattungen the family Nemacheilidae we came to the generic name Yunnanilus. With the key www.fishbase.org available for the Asian Schmerlengattungen the family Nemacheilidae we came to the generic name Yunnanilus. This was confirmed by the initial description of Celestichthys, in the description in the biotope Begleitfische are listed, and an article in the Amazon (EVERS 2007), in which a male displayed is confirmed. This was confirmed by the initial description of Celestichthys, in the description in the biotope Begleitfische are listed, and an article in the Amazon (EVERS 2007), in which a male displayed is confirmed.

After a few days promoting a work colleague at the wholesale cleaning of a fourth Schmerle from the filter of Celestichthys basin to light. After a few days promoting a work colleague at the wholesale cleaning of a fourth Schmerle from the filter of Celestichthys basin to light. When this evening described in the aquarium to the other animals set, it was exciting. When this evening described in the aquarium to the other animals set, it was exciting. The addition differed despite its pallor transportbedingten by a yellowish color of the tail and its zierlichere figure of the three bright and rather rounded primed previously existing. The addition differed despite its pallor transportbedingten by a yellowish color of the tail and its zierlichere figure of the three bright and rather rounded primed previously existing. As one of his eyes crossed field, he followed her immediately. As one of his eyes crossed field, he followed her immediately. It was followed hours of extensive hunting, where most of New pursued one of the ancients. It was followed hours of extensive hunting, where most of New pursued one of the ancients. Has sought and achieved, followed by a Knabbern on the dorsal anterior approach, at the abdomen or on the Afterflosse approach, with which, beknabberte "Schmerle sometimes the abdomen by turns and S-Krümmugen presented. Has sought and achieved, followed by a Knabbern on the dorsal anterior approach, at the abdomen or on the Afterflosse approach, with which, beknabberte "Schmerle sometimes the abdomen by turns and S-Krümmugen presented. Once let the new noise like an knarrendes Leather hear, which is quietly but clearly vernehmbar. Once the new left is a noise like leather knarrendes hear, which is quietly but clearly vernehmbar. As the newcomer on the next day in a bright orange and yellow showed alternately with the other in loaches by filamentous algae überwucherten Vallisnerien disappeared it became clear that the lack of males to the three previously well-groomed females. As the newcomer on the next day in a bright orange and yellow showed alternately with the other loaches in the filamentous algae überwucherten Vallisnerien disappeared it became clear that the lack of males to the three previously well-groomed females.

Females with long evenings and magnifying glass pipette in the hands followed. Long evenings with pipette and magnifying glass in the hands followed. It showed that courtship and mating primarily in the evening hours. It showed that courtship and mating primarily in the evening hours. Once the male meets a female, this is sips at the cloaca. Once the male meets a female, this is sips at the cloaca. In a majority of cases it then turns and leaves the female alone. In a majority of cases it then turns and leaves the female alone. Did he take this action but a partner who caught the already hectic umherschwimmt, instead of the other (s) slow hovernd the interior decoration to explore, he seems to taste. Did he take this action but a partner who caught the already hectic umherschwimmt, instead of the other (s) hovernd slow the interior decoration to explore, he seems to taste. Now it starts, they hectic by the aquarium scheuchen. Now it starts, they hectic scheuchen by the aquarium. On an algae or Pflanzenbüschel remains sometime and writhes S-shaped. On an algae or Pflanzenbüschel remains sometime and writhes S-shaped. After further Sip at the neck of the female - which can also stay away - he winds around it that the Kloaken together to lie, and at this moment are trembling from one to three eggs expelled. After further Sip at the neck of the female - which can also stay away - he winds around it that the Kloaken together to lie, and at this moment are trembling from one to three eggs expelled. Since the whole thing with a "schmerlenartigen" hectic pace in aberwitzigem expires, the photography is very difficult. Since the whole thing with a "schmerlenartigen" hectic pace in aberwitzigem expires, the photography is very difficult. After a few pairings, the enthusiasm for the partners slowly and they can be increasingly distracted, especially Celestichthys female, the male which always follows, or the desire to own caviar. After a few pairings, the enthusiasm for the partners slowly and they can be increasingly distracted, especially Celestichthys female, the male which always follows, or the desire to own caviar. Not only we observed the goings carefully, including the Galaxy Bärblingen clear what was probably expired disappeared and so a large part of the eggs in the Mäulern the Celestichthys. Not only we observed the goings carefully, including the Galaxy Bärblingen clear what was probably expired disappeared and so a large part of the eggs in the Mäulern the Celestichthys.

The young animals produced through very weak greenish colored eggs have a diameter of about 0.8 millimeters. The transparent produced very weak greenish colored eggs have a diameter of about 0.8 millimeters. In the fall mating expelled them quickly in the direction of soil and remain there usually are less in the algae. In the fall mating expelled them quickly in the direction of soil and remain there usually are less in the algae. After a few minutes they will be sticky and adhere to the surface. After a few minutes they will be sticky and adhere to the surface. With a few, Anpusten "with the pipette can they be solved another sticking takes place only if at all, very weak. With a few, Anpusten "with the pipette can they be solved another sticking takes place only if at all, very weak. For lack of space, the eggs in a floating Artemia screening accommodated. For lack of space, the eggs in a floating Artemia screening accommodated. The eggs are growing very fast. The eggs are growing very fast. At 28 ° C water temperature slip the larvae already after 24 hours. At 28 ° C water temperature slip the larvae already after 24 hours. As long as the Dottersack still exists, they are mostly on the page or linked to a head at the side wall or plants. As long as the Dottersack is still present, they are usually on the page or linked to a head at the side wall or plants. After 24 to 36 hours catch the larvae to swim around. After 24 to 36 hours to catch the larvae to swim around. The first was ausgesiebtes plankton feed (primarily rotifers and Cyclops-Nauplien) offered and well received. The first was ausgesiebtes plankton feed (primarily rotifers and Cyclops-Nauplien) offered and well received. First deaths could suspect that the larvae in bio-films very sensitive. First deaths could suspect that the larvae in bio-films very sensitive. Careful cleanliness of the rearing tanks made here improvement. Careful cleanliness of the rearing tanks made here improvement. freischwimmenden juveniles shooting incident very hectic around. freischwimmenden Juveniles The shooting incident very hectic around. After a few such movements, they remain mostly abruptly in Mulm or parts of plants and are visually very difficult to find . After several such movements, they remain mostly abruptly in Mulm or parts of plants and are visually very difficult to find. At the age of about six weeks, the flank drawing. At the age of about six weeks, the drawing flank. small fish are around eleven millimeters in size. The small fish are around eleven millimeters in size.

Young Animal In the initial description of Celestichthys margaritatus is close to the obvious kinship with the Inlé occurring "Microrasbora" erythromicron noted in this context, the thesis established that both forms from a common ancestor could have developed. In the initial description of Celestichthys margaritatus is close to the obvious kinship with the Inlé occurring "Microrasbora" erythromicron noted in this context, the thesis established that both forms from a common ancestor could have developed. Due to the strong similarity could be our opinion here in the Myanmar-Zwergschmerle and Inlé-Schmerle (Yunnanilus brevis) a way to the same evolutionary couple separated. Due to the strong similarity could be our opinion here in the Myanmar-Zwergschmerle and Inlé-Schmerle (Yunnanilus brevis) a way to the same evolutionary couple separated. A theory, but only after detailed investigations could be confirmed. A theory, but only after detailed investigations could be confirmed.

The Myanmar-Zwergschmerle to our knowledge has not yet targeted, but merely as by-catch is imported. The Myanmar-Zwergschmerle to our knowledge has not yet targeted, but merely as by-catch is imported. The Government of Myanmar in early March 2007 a ban on export of Celestichthys margaritatus order, it is unlikely in the near future to further loaches. The Government of Myanmar in early March 2007 a ban on export of Celestichthys margaritatus order, it is unlikely in the near future to further loaches. All the more gratifying is the successful offspring to see hopefully the conservation of this species for hobby and science. All the more gratifying is the successful offspring to see hopefully the conservation of this species for hobby and science.
Literature Literature

EVERS, H.-G. EVERS, H.-G. (2007): Fast, faster, fastest. (2007): Fast, faster, fastest. -- AMAZONAS 3 (3): 51-53. -- AMAZONAS 3 (3): 51-53.

ROBERTS, TR (2007): The, Danio celestial pearl ", a new genus and species of colourful minute cyprinid fish from Myanmar (Pisces: Cypriniformes). ROBERTS, TR (2007): The, Danio celestial pearl ", a new genus and species of colourful minute cyprinid fish from Myanmar (Pisces: Cypriniformes). - Raffles Bull Zool. - Raffles Bull Zool. 55 (1): 131 -140. 55 (1): 131-140.

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Post by daspricey » Thu Jul 31, 2008 4:26 pm

Whoops, i've somehow got it translated so that one sentence is in German and then copied in English. :oops:

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Post by Ashleigh » Fri Aug 01, 2008 3:53 am

Interesting read, great news :!:


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Post by janma » Tue Aug 05, 2008 5:16 am

I have a hard time understanding the article. But anyway, my Rosy loaches have had some strange behavior in the last day. First of all the colors have changed with males getting really bright orange/red and the tail section has an extremely colored area, even females has the strong color in the tail but otherwise are the same. The males have started to chase the females too. Don't know whats going on but it's very interesting. Here are some pics I managed to get, these are so damn fast and small.

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If it is spawning behavior, I don't know how it would go with eggs/fry when there are Schistura cf. balteata in the same tank.
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Post by beknabberte_schmerle » Sun Aug 09, 2009 5:34 pm

I had a hard time understanding the article, too, although I/we wrote it!
The translation is hilarious! Why don’t you guys download the article, find the corresponding author’s e-mail address and just ask them?
First of all, yes, indeed, they have been bred. We still keep several males and females which brings me to Janma: those are all males on your pictures. Males show this bright orange coloration, although it can vary in intensity between and within individuals.
Females are pale with dark irregular speckles on dorsum and flanks (see picture here: http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2 ... 41baff7d75).

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