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Emma Turner
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 Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 5:59 pm Post subject: Sumatran Mini Royal Loaches |
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In tonight's fish shipment were these new "Sumatran Mini Royal Loaches", which had been listed as "Cobitis cf. sumatranus". They are quite slender and at first glance look like a cross between Misgurnus/Lepidocephalichthys/Acantopsis!
Better pictures will follow in due course, but here's a few showing them on arrival (taken in near darkness):
And just after being released from the bag:
Size is 1.5" TL.
Emma
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Graeme Robson
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Superb!! 
They look interesting! I'm sure you will have them in tip-top condition soon, Emma!
Very nice indeed!
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Jim Powers
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those are cute little fellas.
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Wow !! They're really cool !! Not seen them before.
Thanx 4 sharing..
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lf11casey
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Those are really neat Emma.
Is there a reason why there is a leaf in the bag?
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Mad Duff
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Very nice Emma 
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Emma Turner
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Thanks all.
Casey, that's a dried Indian Almond Leaf (Terminalia catappa) which have various uses. In this case, the supplier uses them for delicate fish that may be more sensitive to the shipping process. The leaves release natural substances into the water and have anti-bacterial properties. Other people use them to replicate blackwater conditions in their tanks or for encouraging difficult-to-breed species to spawn. I use them in the filter of my River Tank where the two Sewellia species bred.
http://www.aquarticles.com/articles/management/Nagendra_Almond_Leaf.html
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Oh ok. Thanks for the info Emma. Another little tidbit to tuck into the brain.
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oooh.
very cobitis-y.
oh hang on, they are cobitis.
ahem.
they're lovely - temperate or tropical, she said hopefully?
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Very nice
Do these guys have similar reqirements to other Cobitis species? I'm wondering if they might be suitable for a river tank.
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Hey Whitey....how you doin'? I heard that Sheffield became a River-Tank.
Ok where you are?
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Hey Whitey....how you doin'? I heard that Sheffield became a River-Tank.
Ok where you are?
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I managed to miss all the excitement up here on the hill- the worst I've suffered is getting my boots wet There have been power cuts in some parts of the city, but we've been lucky here. You're not far off with the river tank- I've heard stories of koi swimming through the streets. A lot of cleanup still to be done, but it's pretty much buisness as usual.
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Not got my books to hand as I'm at work, but possibly Kottelatlimia pristes or Lepidocephalus weberi?  |
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Emma Turner
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| Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:57 am Post subject: |
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Interesting! I will try to get some better pictures over the next few days to make IDing easier. The supplier claimed this was a brand new species, but it may be that they couldn't ID it.
Emma
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| Not got my books to hand as I'm at work, but possibly Kottelatlimia pristes or Lepidocephalus weberi? |
There's an image of a preserved specimen of K. pristes on Plate 28 of Kotelat et al's FF of Western Indonesia and Sulawesi.
In the same book, see page 81 that discusses some Acanthopsoides. Page 80 gives a key to the genera which will be useful in pinning down the genera (although Kottelatlimia wasnt used then). I seemed to think I have the info on how this genus is different somewhere. |
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