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Your clowns look very healthy & happy. I wish I could help but my largest tank is a 5ft 110g & I'm in CA.

I do understand your problem with rehoming, I had to give up my clowns before I moved to CA. It was heartbreaking!!

Good luck! Let us know how it goes for you & your loaches.

I think in a 75g with lots of hiding spots like wood, rocks & plants, you could keep quite a few of each. I have not kept those together but it should be fine. Say maybe 8-10 striatas & 12+ pangios (kuhlis). All the same species of pangios is better but I did keep 6 oblongas & 8 semicinctas & some o...

Botia almorahe (old name B. lohachata or maybe a slightly different fish?) is what I meant by yoyo. That's from the pattern on younger loaches, it eventually changes & becomes harder to see. I'd never seen yoyo to mean misgurnus, but I agree about common names being confusing. So can some of the Lat...

I think it's a yoyo, their patterns change as they grow.

Bas, I'm not sure what you mean about misgurnus (weather loaches)?

Well, I kind of did answer you, 84F doesn't hold as much oxygen as lower temps. Discus are happier at high-ish temps with slow flow, garras not so much. I have very young garras in a tank that seldom gets to 77F even in CA summer. They seem active & healthy at that maximum temp, as were older pandas...

It's always good to know the real scientific names of our fish. "Royal" plecos can be several similar kinds. Pangios is preferred, it's the genus, kuhlis is a species of pangio. But we all know some common names, clowns, sids etc. for some loaches, & we know what you mean by kuhlis...unless you want...

It's your sailfin & royal plecos that will grow large, like 17+ inches! I wonder if they'll fight as they grow...I haven't kept either let alone together.

Good luck from a former Michigander. How about a pic or 2 please?

Gee, I think your tank is already overstocked when your fish approach adult sizes. They must be pretty small now.

I've kept panda garras only twice now but that high of temp doesn't allow for enough oxygen without more flow than your discus like. Time to make some choices or get another tank.

You should check out Mark Duffil's (Mad Duff here on LOL) loachfanatics site on facebook. He's bred several (many) species of loaches, no "stripping" just the natural method.

I'm not sure I'd trust yoyos with cardinal tetras. I haven't kept yoyos but 6-8 inch fish can eat 2 inch 1s. Maybe add to your danios & rainbowfish...& maybe another loach or 2. They all do better in groups. Have at least 3 hiding places (wood, rocks etc) for the loaches. It will help them feel secu...

Happy Birthday to Anthia & all your clowns! I look forward each year to your New Year update on them. Congrats to you all!

From what I can tell your yoyo loaches are almost fully grown. They can grow to 6 inches But I'm not great on cms/inches, lol. What size is your tank? That & how they were kept before you acquired them can make a difference...Did you ever treat them for internal parasites? They're not uncommom in lo...

Thanks Charles, I did get your pm with an email notification of that but no confirmation that I replied. I did send you my email. Thank you for any information you think I can use & understand. As always your insights are very helpful.

Happy winter holidays in whatever way you may observe them.

I'm not much of a facebooker but I do loach fanatics, my plant club (sort of, when the main site was down) & a very few relatives. My settings are on paranoid, lol. If I don't know you already I won't "friend you". I visit maybe once/week. You are 1 of the reasons I stick around here at all. I check...

Charles, I always appreciate your input, as do many of us. Unfortunately this site is dying (sniff). It's very sad to see. I hope you'll join some of us at facebook loach fanatics...or maybe you have?? You have some very good insights I hope you'll continue to share. We need informed people like you...