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Post by tender » Mon Dec 08, 2008 9:38 am

Ok!
Thanks for the info, everybody :D
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Post by Jim Powers » Mon Dec 08, 2008 5:03 pm

Here are two hitrionicas I had a few years back. The larger one kept her markings and color while the smaller (male?) did not.
Here they are hanging out with a botia dario while two sinobotia pulchra and two other darios look on from their cave.
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Post by tender » Mon Dec 08, 2008 5:22 pm

That is one beautiful fish, Jim :D
I wish Histrionicas like that were available in my country :cry:

Could it be an idea to add a pic with this coloration in the species index?
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Post by plaalye » Mon Dec 08, 2008 9:29 pm

Great pic Jim. Do you think it's possible that they took on the gold color to blend with the substrate.
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Post by Jim Powers » Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:06 am

They had the yellow color when I got them as juveniles and kept it as adults. The female kept more color than the male. I always assumed it was either because of their diet or some sort of regional characteristic, but that's just a guess.
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Post by Doc » Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:28 am

I had a look at the picture in the Loach book and after a good 5 minute inspection I don't think the fish is as golden coloured as we all assume.. Looking at the back quarter of the fish I would say the fish has a subtle hint of pale cream colour and the bright gold may well be just be enhanced by the fact the fish is in part shade.
So many species of fish yet so little time, space and money to keep them all...
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Post by The.Dark.One » Wed Dec 10, 2008 6:47 am

There are at least 2 if not 3 regional variants of 'histrionica' (see my article on the subject).
Whether they all turn out to be the same or are actually different species we may find out soon. I understand that we can expect some new Botias soon :wink:
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Post by Ashleigh » Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:13 pm

The.Dark.One wrote: I understand that we can expect some new Botias soon :wink:
One cannot make a statement like this with without sharing more :shock:


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Post by The.Dark.One » Thu Dec 11, 2008 6:03 am

I've been aware for some time that Botiids of Myanmar and possibly surrounding region are being worked on. I expect new species, but could be wrong.
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Post by palaeodave » Sat Dec 13, 2008 2:18 pm

The.Dark.One wrote:I've been aware for some time that Botiids of Myanmar and possibly surrounding region are being worked on. I expect new species, but could be wrong.
I randomly got talking to someone at the NHM a while back. We got talking about fish and it turns out that he works on loach systematics. Wish I could remember his name. Could he be who you're talking about?
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Post by Emma Turner » Sat Dec 13, 2008 2:31 pm

Maybe you were talking to The.Dark.One himself, Dave?!
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Post by bfulton » Sat Dec 13, 2008 5:04 pm

Hi, Where would I find articles from TDO? I looked on here but couldn't come up with it. I'm interested in his regional variations of the species as he mentioned about - histronica.

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Post by palaeodave » Sat Dec 13, 2008 5:55 pm

Emma Turner wrote:Maybe you were talking to The.Dark.One himself, Dave?!
Does TDO work at the NHM London?!
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Post by Emma Turner » Sat Dec 13, 2008 7:11 pm

I believe he has access for all things ichthyological at the NHM (he will correct me if I am wrong). :wink: He may not thank me for telling you, but his human pseudonym is Steven Grant.

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Post by The.Dark.One » Sun Dec 14, 2008 6:51 am

I wish I did work at the NHM!!!! No, unfortunately I am an amateur, although the NHM is very helpful with me and provides access to stuff.

No, the person I am talking about doesn't work at NHM. I can't really say as I was told in confidence. I think it will be appearing in Zootaxa though and may not be too long now. I don't think my article will get a mention though, or if it does it may get a caning because of its limited scientific scope (lack of hard accurate data on specimens - I only got to use images, because of my job I couldn't get the time to actually go and accurately examine specimens). However, it was a start!

bfulton - send me a pm with your email address and I will send you a copy.
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