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Keeb
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All I can grow is blue green algae

Post by Keeb » Sat Apr 07, 2007 2:48 pm

I've been trying to grow algae rocks for my Hillies in a 3 gal tank with air stone and filter still running, sitting in window. All I can get to grow is blue green algae which I don't want to expose my 50gal river tank to. I seeded the algae growing tank with some rocks with brown algae on them. I'm going to nuke the 3 gal and start over. How do I get nice green algae like Martin grows? What am I doing wrong?

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Post by TammyLiz » Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:24 pm

I have done pretty well getting a lot of "nice green algae" in a betta bowl next to a window when I neglected the water change for a while. And thats the key: the waste. Ammonia feeds algae. Not much will happen if you don't have anything feeding the algae.

As far as Martin's algae--did you hear about his "secret ingredient"?

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Post by chefkeith » Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:32 pm

Algae needs nutrients, especially iron. Martin has a good source. Maybe he'll let you buy some.

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Post by Keeb » Sun Apr 08, 2007 1:05 am

I did indeed add some of Martin's secret ingredient. I also added some Nutrafin Plant gro. There is nothing but rocks in the tank so I do know if the tank will cycle except for ammonia from the secret ingredient. I thought algae liked good water to thrive as opposed to poor water quality so I do regular water changes and top up nutrients. I guess I'll just nuke it and start again.

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Post by Setsuna » Sun Apr 08, 2007 3:03 am

Dare I ask... What is Martin's secret ingredient?

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Post by Blue » Sun Apr 08, 2007 3:52 am

Setsuna wrote:Dare I ask... What is Martin's secret ingredient?
I'm interested to hear that.:) Wasn't that pee?:?
Martin Thoene wrote:Fertilizer would be good right? Added a few splashes of Hydroponic fertilizer that Momfish has used for years in planted tanks.....and a secret ingredient.

While back in England, I had a planted tank with no fish and with Momfish's encouragement via phone from Canada I tried an experiment based on a story she heard from the kid's Summer Camp. At the camp, all the girls used to swim in a small bay in the lake. It had luxuriant aquatic plant growth. One of the ladies in charge gets all "eco" on the girls and works out that if a certain percentage of them pee in the water while swimming, in a given time they are excreting a 50 gallon drum-full. So she places a blanket ban on peeing in the lake.
The plant growth died back drastically......go figure.

So my plant experiment worked quite well. I guess you could call it self-propelled Figured that it ought to work on algae, so using my self dispensing equipment I filled half a mug and threw that in. If you ever come round my place decline offers of tea or coffee

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Post by worton » Sun Apr 08, 2007 5:57 am

Hey,

If I remember rightly pee was a fool's day joke ;).

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Post by Keeb » Sun Apr 08, 2007 11:45 am

:shock: I hope it wasn't a fool's day joke because I took it seriously and there was no mention in that thread of it being a fool's day joke. It made sense to me because it would supply ammonia. Martin could you confirm this please?

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Post by shari2 » Sun Apr 08, 2007 11:57 am

No, the algae farm wasn't the joke. The spawning hillies was, though. 8)
And yes, the nasty secret ingredient was exactly what you think it was. :roll:
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Post by mikev » Sun Apr 08, 2007 12:10 pm

Blue-green algae -- is it filmlike, covering the glass and stones?

Then, it is actually not an algae, but cyanobacteria. It is easy to kill with antibiotics, and once it is killed, normal algae will have a chance to develop.

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Post by Keeb » Sun Apr 08, 2007 12:54 pm

Yes it is Cyanbacteria, however I'm going to nuke the tank rather than use antibiotics, and hope for better luck next time.

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Post by mistergreen » Sun Apr 08, 2007 3:06 pm

yeah, don't mess with antibiotics too much. People over use it.

Algae need the same nutrients as plants.. so, If you have aquarium ferts or garden ferts just put in a cap full.. Or put in a handful of topsoil. Or do both.

Pee is a good source of nitrogen (ammonia), that's all. And it's a pretty sterile liquid. But you also need Potassium, Phosphorus, & trace elements.

BGA thrive because the other algae can't thrive due to the water lacking nitrogen mostly.

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Post by Blue » Sun Apr 08, 2007 7:36 pm

Keeb wrote::shock: I hope it wasn't a fool's day joke because I took it seriously and there was no mention in that thread of it being a fool's day joke. It made sense to me because it would supply ammonia. Martin could you confirm this please?

Keeb
I had taken this one seriously too.:shock:

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Post by worton » Tue Apr 10, 2007 3:17 am

Hey,

looks like I did not remember it rightly ;))).

Regards.

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