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best temp to treat ich?

Post by clutchxr » Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:13 am

I found out last night one of my clowns has ich. I started treating them with chems. On the bottle it says to raise the temp to 84-86 F. I just was wondering if it was ok to raise it this high with my 2 iredesent sharks and a ghost knife in the tank? If this is too high what should I raise it to? I started the treatment at half dose and set the temp to 80. I dont want to harm my knife I just got him.

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Post by clutchxr » Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:37 am

I just looked in my tank and I appear to have a egg on one of my plants. Its about the size of a grain of rice. Maybe from the danios I started the tank with? Might be from snails but I have only seen one in there and I think the clowns may have eaten it because it hasn't been seen since the clowns were added. I hope it has nothing to do with the ich. just thought I'd let you all know before I head off to work.

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Post by clutchxr » Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:06 pm

My smallest clown loach the one with ich died yesterday. I am going to continue the ich treatment for a few more days just to make sure no one else gets sick. I want to get 2 more clowns to replace the 2 I lost recently but I am going to wait a few weeks.

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Post by ckk125 » Sat Apr 28, 2007 9:39 pm

if i were you, i will raise it higher to 89-90...at that temperature, the parasites will die.

just raise it slowly and increase the areation as well.

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Post by shari2 » Sat Apr 28, 2007 10:25 pm

Here's a profile on your black ghost knife:
http://badmanstropicalfish.com/profiles/profile66.html
I don't think they'd do well with temps as high as 90F, but I don't keep them myself so check into that yourself before you raise the temp.

Is this the 90g tank you're talking about?
any chance you could post a pic?
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Post by ckk125 » Sat Apr 28, 2007 10:39 pm

i tried it with clown knife, not with BGK. so, use it only as your last resort.

according to that website, pictus will only range from 23 to 26..mine went up to 32 during quarantine to kill off the ich parasites.

it may not be ideal for them, but if done slowly, it works very well. All cleared within 3 days. If you are not sure, then use it as your last resort. :)

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Post by clutchxr » Sun Apr 29, 2007 2:25 am

Yes the fish that had the ich was in my 90. I didn't expect the fish to die. It only had a few spots total on it. they were all on its fins none I could see on its body. Luckily none of the other fish seem to show any signs of ich. They danios in the tank were the first thing to act funny though. Two of them were bouncing off the plants and the other 2 kept chasing them around the tank all day. That was the day before anyone noticed the spots on the clown. I have really had some bad luck with fish. Since march I lost mostly to the 29 gallon not being cycled when I started 4 clown loaches, 2 glow fish, 1 betta, 2 mollies, 2 plectos, and a painted glass. Hopefully I don't lose anything else! I only used the ich treatment at half strength I don't think that was the cause of the last clowns demise. Maybe it was just overstressed from the time in the 29 gallon. Nitrite and nitrate was off the scale for a bit. I remember now why I didn't have fish for the past 10 years or so. I can't seem to keep them alive for very long
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Post by WhtDragn101 » Sun Apr 29, 2007 6:28 pm

I have beaten ich several times (with zero losses) by slowly increasing the temp to 90 and keeping it there for 2-3 weeks. Temp. only, no meds, no salt, nothing. The high temp did not seem to affect the loaches one bit. As long as you have very good aeration, they do just fine.

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Post by shari2 » Sun Apr 29, 2007 7:20 pm

Ich generally attacks the gills of the fish first so you don't necessarily see it on the body/fins until it's well established and becoming a serious threat to your fish.
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Post by clutchxr » Mon Apr 30, 2007 2:46 am

Now one of my danios has a single spot on him. I only had enough ich stuff for a half dose. I have to get up to the store in the morning. The danio keeps bouncing off the plants. Im not sure if the ich treatment is doing anything or not. The active ingredient is victoria green. I don't think I should raise the temp any higher than it is. i don't want to hurt the ghost. Is there anything I can add along with the current stuff to make a cure more likely?

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Post by clutchxr » Mon Apr 30, 2007 3:10 pm

I noticed this morning that one of my remaining clowns is bouncing off the slate in the corner not good. It doesn't have any spots on it yet though. He is still eating too.

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Post by clutchxr » Mon Apr 30, 2007 7:29 pm

I am going to try rasing the temp a few more degrees sadly the knife died. I really can't beleive this. He seemed fine yesterday. I found him when I was cleaning. He was covered with spots worse than anything I have seen in my tank. I am not going to get any more fish till I can at least make it a couple weeks without losing anything. I don't understand :(

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Post by shari2 » Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:29 pm

Your tank is full of ich in varying stages of development.
One suggestion would be to remove all fish to a quarantine tank, clean the tank well and leave it unoccupied for a couple of weeks while you're treating the other fish. Without a fish host the ick will die.

Once you're sure your fish are free of it, you can put them back. Other than that, keep treating the remaining fish in the current tank and hope you can get it gone.

Sorry to hear about the BGK. When you increase the temp the life cycle of the parasite speeds up. He got attacked and was likely already infected.
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Post by clutchxr » Tue May 01, 2007 4:58 am

Just checked on my fish they look really bad. the 2 sharks have red streaks on their lower third and their bottom fins are red. All the the neons look almost completely colorless. the danios seem unaffected. The 2 clowns I don't know about they are in the cave. What would you suggest?

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Post by ckk125 » Tue May 01, 2007 5:22 am

Use the heat method which i told u.

Add melafix as well.

Good luck.

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