Help ID a loach..../Hillstream tank setup question

The forum for the very best information on loaches of all types. Come learn from our membership's vast experience!

Moderator: LoachForumModerators

User avatar
mikev
Posts: 3103
Joined: Sat Feb 04, 2006 6:06 pm
Location: NY

Post by mikev » Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:17 pm

Martin Thoene wrote:Hmmmm...interesting. I'm not quite sure what you've got there.

Martin.
I'll try to catch the bottom view (but unlike the others, he prefers stones or the ground). I *thought* his mouth was Beaufortian. But behavior and colors are quite different.

User avatar
Martin Thoene
Posts: 11186
Joined: Wed Dec 28, 2005 5:38 am
Location: Toronto.....Actually, I've been on LOL since September 1998

Post by Martin Thoene » Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:20 pm

I would like to see any angle you can get actually Mike. It looks a bit "taller" than Beaufortia in those pictures. Might be the angle or something.

Martin.
Image Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated.

Image

User avatar
mikev
Posts: 3103
Joined: Sat Feb 04, 2006 6:06 pm
Location: NY

Post by mikev » Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:34 pm

I'll get more pictures, when he moves (has been sloooly eating a shrimp pellet for an hour). Proportions and behavior do look more like Cheni's to (ignorant) me, but the dorsal does not have the red border.

Do you happen to have an image of a Beaufortia with the raised dorsal?

User avatar
Jim Powers
Posts: 5208
Joined: Wed Dec 28, 2005 6:15 pm
Location: Bloomington, Indiana

Post by Jim Powers » Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:50 pm

That's an interesting looking fish. It does look taller and a little more cylindrical than the standard beaufortia. Maybe another beaufortia or something. Doesn't look like a sinogastromyzon, though.
Image

User avatar
mikev
Posts: 3103
Joined: Sat Feb 04, 2006 6:06 pm
Location: NY

Post by mikev » Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:53 pm

TY! I think we can ID him easily: SpE, what else?

A couple more views...

Image

Image

Actual dimensions: 1.75" length, 0.3in height.

Image

Large scale image (click on to see):

Image

Quite obviously this one knows the utility of flat round stones.... 8)

User avatar
mikev
Posts: 3103
Joined: Sat Feb 04, 2006 6:06 pm
Location: NY

Post by mikev » Thu Mar 30, 2006 12:18 am

The bottom view.---very similar to the others, but this guy has much more fin shading visible from the bottom.

Image

User avatar
mikev
Posts: 3103
Joined: Sat Feb 04, 2006 6:06 pm
Location: NY

Post by mikev » Thu Mar 30, 2006 1:54 pm

Note to Jim:

NOX Ich' active ingredients are Sodium Chloride and Malachite Green. The med I used is the same, plus Acriflavine, which is probably the least dangerous of the three. So use of Nox likely would have made no difference.

User avatar
Jim Powers
Posts: 5208
Joined: Wed Dec 28, 2005 6:15 pm
Location: Bloomington, Indiana

Post by Jim Powers » Thu Mar 30, 2006 5:00 pm

That's interesting. I never really paid that much attention to the ingredients (which I should have :? ) and haven't had to use it a long time.
Thanks for the info.
Image

User avatar
mikev
Posts: 3103
Joined: Sat Feb 04, 2006 6:06 pm
Location: NY

Post by mikev » Thu Mar 30, 2006 6:19 pm

You are very welcome.

IMHO, this simply adds to the fact that we all are using the same meds which are generally suitable and work perfectly once we know how to use them -- that is, except for some extreme cases.

In light of the current negative developments, I'm seriously looking at ingredients and alternative approaches outside of the standard drug cocktail.

---

Incidentally, the fellow above restored his normal colors when I was back. The only way to know who he was was to see who is eating all the time. Now, he moved to a red stone and became green again. Funny stuff.

User avatar
Martin Thoene
Posts: 11186
Joined: Wed Dec 28, 2005 5:38 am
Location: Toronto.....Actually, I've been on LOL since September 1998

Post by Martin Thoene » Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:35 pm

Mike, I did a number on your picture. Makes things easier to define.

Image

Still think it's some sort of Beaufortia.

Oh...and here's a dorsal raised pic.....

Image
Image
Martin.
Last edited by Martin Thoene on Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:41 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Image Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated.

Image

User avatar
mikev
Posts: 3103
Joined: Sat Feb 04, 2006 6:06 pm
Location: NY

Post by mikev » Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:37 pm

did a number on your picture == ?????

User avatar
Martin Thoene
Posts: 11186
Joined: Wed Dec 28, 2005 5:38 am
Location: Toronto.....Actually, I've been on LOL since September 1998

Post by Martin Thoene » Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:43 pm

mikev wrote:did a number on your picture == ?????
Compare it to your original pic. Changed contrast, saturation, tone, and filtered and sharpened.

Martin.
Image Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated.

Image

User avatar
mikev
Posts: 3103
Joined: Sat Feb 04, 2006 6:06 pm
Location: NY

Post by mikev » Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:50 pm

Got you... Thank you very much; it will be printed and placed on the wall here.

It is still quite likely that he is the same sp. as the rest; it is just that somehow he adjusted instantly unlike the rest. We'll see in a few days.

User avatar
Jim Powers
Posts: 5208
Joined: Wed Dec 28, 2005 6:15 pm
Location: Bloomington, Indiana

Post by Jim Powers » Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:57 pm

I vote for a beaufortia species, too. :?
Image

User avatar
mikev
Posts: 3103
Joined: Sat Feb 04, 2006 6:06 pm
Location: NY

Post by mikev » Thu Mar 30, 2006 11:06 pm

All right, let it be Beaufortia, I asked it and heard no objections. Thanks a lot for the ID.

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 151 guests