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Post by newshound » Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:10 pm

I'd guess that most of the eggs were eaten by the mix of fish.
I'd also guess that eggs are best protected by having a mix of gravel sizes in the tank. Like what you would see at a rapids area. Places for the eggs to slip into and not be disturbed by any other loaches.
Of course the dithers would be more than happy to eat any fry I am sure.
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Post by Mad Duff » Wed Jan 09, 2008 4:26 am

leokiss wrote:Mark,i wonder if the rasboras had anything to do with it,i think they used to share the same habitats in thailand up until all the sids disapeared.Maybe not ,just a thought!
The Rasboras certainly do a good job as dithers, before I got them the sid's stayed down amongst the rocks 90% of the time but since the Rasboras went in the sid's are out and about 90% of the time. It could well be down to the fact that they feel so relaxed in their surroundings as to why they spawned.
Jim Powers wrote:That would be fantastic if you got more spawnings. I must say I am surprised that you had survivors with all the other fish in the tank.
Keep up the good work!!!
No as surprised as me Jim :lol:
newshound wrote:I'd guess that most of the eggs were eaten by the mix of fish.
I'd also guess that eggs are best protected by having a mix of gravel sizes in the tank. Like what you would see at a rapids area. Places for the eggs to slip into and not be disturbed by any other loaches.
Of course the dithers would be more than happy to eat any fry I am sure.
Its hard to come to any conclusions really without seeing the egg's which is what I hope to do next time (thinking positive), I could only imagine how many eggs a group of 36 sid's could produce :shock:

Hopefully if they spawn again I will try and remove some eggs and if they do spawn I will be seriously tempted to either move them to their own tank or remove everything else from the tank :?
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Post by wasserscheu » Wed Jan 09, 2008 6:05 am

either way Mark, that´s revolutionary news, you "loach-rebell" :D

Very nice to hear that it can be done, excellent job Mark 8)
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Post by Mad Duff » Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:43 am

Thomas wrote:This loaches have much friends in germany, and in german forum users sometimes ask about breeding sids. Next time I will link your Thread :D
Thanks Thomas, the more people that know this can be done hopefully the more people will try :)
wasserscheu wrote:either way Mark, that´s revolutionary news, you "loach-rebell" :D

Very nice to hear that it can be done, excellent job Mark 8)
Thanks Wolfram :)
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More mating behaviour of Yasuhikotakia sidthimunki?

Post by quatermass » Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:57 am

My 3 dwarf chain loaches have been acting oddly. I've had them for around 2 years.


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First they started going pale and then rubbing each other oddly.

See YouTube - video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8CRYiZ-AhI&fmt=6

Now one of them (the longest one) is living under a big bit of bogwood close to a Khuli loach.

It recently started making a hole under the wood and now it spends hours there whilst the other two swim around.

My 250L 48x18x18" tank contains a lot of other fish so I doubt fry would live long...

Fingers crossed though eh? 8)
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Post by grizzlyone » Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:03 pm

Congrats!


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Post by TammyLiz » Fri Mar 21, 2008 1:44 pm

Hey I'm a little slow finding this thread but I just read it for the first time.

I'm so glad to hear of it, though.! Having something accidentally survive in a tank is the only way I have ever bred anything and I love it because of the idea of it all happening naturally without doing anything other than making the fish comfortable and giving them a good life. As a hobbiest it is really the way to go not only for that reason but also so you don't end up with more fry than you know what to do with.

Congratulations!

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Post by quatermass » Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:00 pm

TammyLiz wrote:Hey I'm a little slow finding this thread but I just read it for the first time.

I'm so glad to hear of it, though.! Having something accidentally survive in a tank is the only way I have ever bred anything and I love it because of the idea of it all happening naturally without doing anything other than making the fish comfortable and giving them a good life. As a hobbiest it is really the way to go not only for that reason but also so you don't end up with more fry than you know what to do with.

Congratulations!
I know what you mean, I got given a female and male Molly by someone who didn't want them and 2 weeks I had 50+!

Take a look - video

What would you do... ;-))
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Post by Akvator » Wed Jun 11, 2008 5:23 pm

...After getting a tip on another forum that I should try to post my Chain loach photos here for som expert tips I stumble upon this thread, wich is perfect...My loaches has been acting a bit weird lately, loosing their colouring and generally being very tied up in each other...I'll attach a couple of pictures here to see if anyone can recognize the pale sides..

...The first picture is of a curious bystander in the usual coloration of my loaches, and the second is a better view of the "clean" sides that the couple is sporting...
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(Full size images can be downloaded here and here)

...Any and all comments are appreciated, and hopefully the pictures can be to help...

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Post by Mad Duff » Wed Jun 11, 2008 5:47 pm

Great photo's, that is classic sidthimunki activity, they will usually grey out like that when having their little dominance spats. There are times when mine have become totally silver and lost all trace of their markings.
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Post by Mike Ophir » Wed Jun 11, 2008 6:53 pm

Likewise. When my Sids sparred, they would gray out completely - just completely gray fish!

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Post by Finnatic » Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:26 pm

Congrats, what wonderful news. Can imagine how thrilled you are - and we all are for you too.
What amazes me is that this and all other "accidental" spawnings came about by "nature" and the youngs managed to survive WITHOUT human intervention!
For me, this is the ultimate in fishkeeping - that the environment one provides is good enough for our little charges to procreate.
Well done!
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Post by Mark in Vancouver » Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:41 pm

Congratulations. Cheers!
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Post by kairy » Sat Jun 14, 2008 10:35 pm

Congratulation

that a big news for sidthimunki's fans 8)

hope you gonna guide us to spawned ours sidthimunkis too!!

Give us more information about your tank please!!

(i just start sidthimunki since 8 months)

-can you tell us which plants you use in your tank?

-if possible what are the caracteric of your water? (GH,PH, degree)

-Do you oftently change your water tank?? :oops:

-how do you feeds them?? (home made food??)

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Re: Sidthimunki spawned

Post by RcCypher » Wed May 08, 2013 4:01 pm

This is an old thread but I am hoping someone will notice this post.

I just purchased a 220Gal Saltwater aquarium which I intend to re-purpose as a freshwater planted tank with the specific goal of breeding Sidthimunki. My wife and I love these little guys and are hoping we can "unlock" and document the conditions and events which trigger the spawning behaviors so that we can share the knowledge with the community at large.

I don't want to ask specific questions because I want this to be as open ended as possible regarding the answers as such please forgive me if the question seems stupidly non specific.

What soil, plants, and tank conditions would be best to emphasize in order to enhance the changes for breeding?
What water qualities does the community recommend? (I did read the thread, but that was posted almost 5 years ago maybe things have changed?)
What fish would be the best tank mates?
What kind of invertebrates (cherry shrimp? crabs?)
What about lighting conditions?
How many (40ish or more?) monkeys should I get?
Any other thoughts?

Currently I have 6 monkeys, with another 4 on hold for pickup at the store next week. Does anyone know where I can purchase more for a reasonable price. Currently I am paying around $25USD/fish.
I am considering setting up small water resistant cameras for the hidden areas to help monitor the behavior, but this is dependent on being able to find/afford the cameras. (If I can get this setup I'll probably setup live feeds so people can watch the tank, wouldn't that be cool?) Also I would like to setup digital water quality monitoring equipment, does anyone know a good supplier?
I'm also experimenting with LED grow lights for the plants instead of metal hallide (I have the hallide lights but they put out so much heat and I live in Texas, my AC bill is big enough), does anyone have recommendations for a good brand of LED lights for planted tanks, almost all I have seen are for reef tanks.

I'm interested to hear the thoughts of the community!

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