Panda loach

Rainy · Post by **Rainy** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 7:02 am

Hi
I'm new to the forum and only have a small tank. I am restocking after a few problems now sorted but I have 2 little grey/silver guys sold as "panda loaches" and 1 kuli left. can anyone tell me about the breeding habits of the pandas, I think they are lepidocephalus machrochir? Beekers? Anyway one looks incredibly fat and I am wondering if I might end up with more and if so how to best look after them? can anyone advise.

Mike Ophir · Post by **Mike Ophir** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:03 am

Never heard of a Panda loach. Do you mean Panda Garra? These are sometimes sold as loaches but they are not.

Mike

Emma Turner · Post by **Emma Turner** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:18 am

Hi Rainy, welcome to Loaches Online.

Are your loaches definitely L. macrochir? If they were labelled as Panda loaches, could they be 'panda kuhlis'?

Here is some info on both:

http://www.loaches.com/species-index/le ... -macrochir

http://www.loaches.com/species-index/pangio-unknown-1

If they are panda kuhli loaches, I have seen the females get incredibly gravid (to the point where they look like they are going to burst).

Emma

Rainy · Post by **Rainy** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 1:51 pm

thanks for the info. Definitely not panda garra. think it must be the panda khuli after emmas link. up to then nearest match was L machrochir but emmas description fits even better and fish is very gravid looking! glad to know and enjoying the little guys whatever they are called! Might end up with a tank full looking at this female!?

Emma Turner · Post by **Emma Turner** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 1:58 pm

Hi Rainy,

Glad to be of help.

Does your female look anything like this one?

As far as I am aware, there have been no reported successful spawnings of this species, but some other Pangio species have been bred by accident. This article on breeding Pangio oblonga might be of interest: http://www.loaches.com/articles/breedin ... io-oblonga

Emma

Mike Ophir · Post by **Mike Ophir** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:04 pm

Wow, that Pangio sp. looks like quite a fat little worm! Really a nice looking fish. Hope you both get some fry from your females.

Mike

Mike Ophir · Post by **Mike Ophir** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:27 pm

PS - I assume this khuli species is new to science yes?

Mike

Emma Turner · Post by **Emma Turner** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:54 pm

We think so, although in the old "Sharks and Loaches" book by Braz Walker, he has a photo by Dr Axelrod on page 33 depicting this species, but.....it is labelled as Pangio javanicus (which is a junior synonym of P. oblonga, as you probably know).

Emma

Mike Ophir · Post by **Mike Ophir** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 3:15 pm

Hmm, interesting. It reminds me of a Pangio species I have seen in a book somewhere but I can't remember where. An intriguing species. To me, it looks like a melanistic-ish form of P. oblonga....but not quite..can't describe it. I can clearly see where it gets its common name from though.

Mike

theshrimpzoo · Post by **theshrimpzoo** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:00 pm

hi i started keeping panda loach fish recently.
a few have breed for me.
and now i have a lot of them if anyone is interested
they are very small fish 1-2" but ghe have amazing black and white coloration very unique rare fish.

bookpage · Post by **bookpage** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:32 pm

There is a panda loach - Yaoshania pachychilus. http://www.seriouslyfish.com/species/ya ... chychilus/
and http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/c ... p?sid=4979

The adults do not look anything like the young.

Might be what you have.

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