Loaches from Taiwan *more pics added 15-03-09*

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Post by LES.. » Wed Mar 11, 2009 1:31 pm

Emma Turner wrote:
LES.. wrote:psst! Emma, any news on the Gastros you got in last week?
Couldn't see any G. viriosus, but if I see any in future shipments they will be reserved for you straight away. Alas, that really huge Gastro did not make it. :cry:
Emma you are wonderful (-: I thought you would have already let us know if there was anything, there i'll just keep hoping for the next shipment.
It is a shame about that big gastro, any idea what it might have been?

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Post by helen nightingale » Wed Mar 11, 2009 3:00 pm

Odyssey, your pictures are making me drool. i need a massive river tank.

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Post by Jim Powers » Wed Mar 11, 2009 3:08 pm

The info on the aggression levels of this species were based on limited available info. This species is not widely available in the hobby.So, as more people keep this fish, we will be better able to determine if the aggression levels reported are the norm.
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Post by Emma Turner » Wed Mar 11, 2009 3:30 pm

Sorry Les, no idea. Unfortunately I wasn't in when it was found.

Yes, it wouldn't surprise me at all if these loaches aren't as aggressive as is mentioned in the species index. I think we only had one report on behaviour, and this may not have been all that accurate.

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Post by palaeodave » Wed Mar 11, 2009 3:36 pm

Is the max size (4.5 inches) likely to be correct? I'm seriously considering asking you to reserve a few for us... Shall need to throw a few stocking suggestions out there for comments at some point. I think we want too many fish in our little tank :lol:
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Post by Emma Turner » Wed Mar 11, 2009 3:38 pm

They won't go on sale for a couple of weeks yet, so no hurry to make up your minds. :wink: Plus I can't see 160 of them selling that quickly anyway. In the meantime I will spend time observing them and let you know what I see.

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Post by KhuliKhilla » Wed Mar 11, 2009 6:03 pm

Emma Turner wrote:They won't go on sale for a couple of weeks yet, so no hurry to make up your minds. :wink: Plus I can't see 160 of them selling that quickly anyway. In the meantime I will spend time observing them and let you know what I see.

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i think i will pre-empt dave here and ask if you can keep us 5 please emma :)

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Post by Thomas » Thu Mar 12, 2009 10:39 am

They arrived also germany. I have seen them on stocklists, but at the moment no space left. :cry: Absolut very nice loaches!

Tank space, the final frontier. :lol:

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Post by Emma Turner » Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:28 am

KhuliKhilla wrote:i think i will pre-empt dave here and ask if you can keep us 5 please emma :)
Consider it done, Lee. :D

Thanks for all the comments, I have taken more pics, just need to go through and sort them out.

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Post by Jeremy » Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:33 am

Emma these look very simmilar to what I recieved about a month ago. Mine where sent as Vanmanenia Hainanesis. Agression wise they have been acting similar to typical shistura behavior. Not sure if they actually are V Hainanensis, as mine have been growing quite quickly. The largest is in the 4 inch range already.

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Post by Graeme Robson » Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:27 pm

Vanmanenia Hainanesis are from China. These are from Taiwan. Similar in looks but the Vanmanenia Hainanesis have more prominent eyes and structure within the facial area.
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Post by Emma Turner » Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:04 am

As promised, here are some more photos. These pics were taken late one evening, so please excuse the MTS (which emerge from the substrate at about that time) and also any carbon pieces from the bags they were shipped in. Unfortunately, I think I placed them in one of the most scratched up tanks in the shop too. :oops: :roll:

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I was rather pleased with the following two shots. "When shall we 3 meet again?"!!
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And a couple of closer shots from my photo tank:
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Remember, these have been taken only a few days after import, we are working on getting some weight on them. :wink:

As for the aggression level, I have seen some of them shove each other off of stones etc, but so far have seen nothing worse than when Gastromyzon have a bit of an argument with one another, for example. However, the fact that there is such a high number of them in one place could be suppressing the aggression.

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Post by Jim Powers » Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:28 am

Those are nice looking fish. I love the markings and barbels.
They should really look nice after they receive some of your famous tender loving care. :wink:
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Post by odyssey » Sun Mar 15, 2009 4:13 am

Hi Emma.

It is splendid photographs!
Their golden brightness comes out well.
The lighting technique is very excellent.

I breed only one of them for around 2 months.
It is not aggressive at all.
It selected a place to stay as the corner of the tank and came to hardly leave the place.
When I give frozen bloodworms, it waits for the good opportunity at the place.
Hillstream which is the most aggressive with my tank is Swellia, and next is P.cheni.

Hi Graeme.
Thank you for the scientific name of the Chinese lizard fish(Vanmanenia hainanensis).
The difference was too subtle, and I couldn't classify.


Ps. even departure is 5 days more.
I am not used to English. Therefore,It is likely to sometimes misunderstand it.

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Post by Mad Duff » Sun Mar 15, 2009 6:11 am

How sure are we that these are Crossostoma lacustre :?:

If they are I would like to get these into the Loach presentation and there are a couple of very nice pics there that should be included.
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14 loach species bred, which will be next?

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