Loaches from Taiwan *more pics added 15-03-09*

afroturf · Post by **afroturf** » Sun Mar 15, 2009 7:07 am

Emma Turner wrote: Sicyopus zosterophorum pairs (you do not want to know the price of those ).

Emma

I'd like to know

Martin Thoene · Post by **Martin Thoene** » Sun Mar 15, 2009 7:16 am

Please Emma......please, please stop the torture

Martin.

mickthefish · Post by **mickthefish** » Sun Mar 15, 2009 7:54 am

Em, get the thumbscrews out. haha
Martin it was YOU who decided to go to Canada mate, just dream about the fish we can get in dear old blighty.

mick

odyssey · Post by **odyssey** » Sun Mar 15, 2009 8:11 am

Hi Mad and LOL.

Mad Duff wrote:How sure are we that these are Crossostoma lacustre

I didn't understand Chinese, but the kanji was common a little, so I looked for a Taiwanese site.

As a result, a very fascinating site was found.
http://163.22.98.130/nature_pic/B1/b5.htm

It's divisible into an upstream region from the downstream, and a lot of freshwater fish which lives in Taiwan is introduced.

It may not be able to indicate Chinese font by many person's PCs.
A text which equals line one of side in a top line is a link to each photograph collection page.

Crossostoma lacustre may be the color of the body and the one from which the design changes big by the age.
http://163.22.98.130/nature_pic/B1/b5.htm#4
http://163.22.98.130/nature_pic/B1/b10.htm#11

The alga is made principal food, it's mentioned, but the fish at me can't see the state which eats an alga.

palaeodave · Post by **palaeodave** » Sun Mar 15, 2009 8:29 am

At last! Thank you Emma! Definitely still want these.

That's a great website Odyssey, thanks for the link. I especially like the Cobitis taenia.

mickthefish · Post by **mickthefish** » Sun Mar 15, 2009 8:49 am

Dave, i once saw the Cobitis in a shop just round the corner from me, i told my mate Andy about them as well, but neither of us got any.
i must have been mad not to get some, but you live and learn.

mick

andre · Post by **andre** » Sun Mar 15, 2009 8:59 am

WOW!

Mad Duff · Post by **Mad Duff** » Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:09 am

Thanks for the links Odyssey

Martin Thoene · Post by **Martin Thoene** » Sun Mar 15, 2009 4:25 pm

mickthefish wrote:Em, get the thumbscrews out. haha
Martin it was YOU who decided to go to Canada mate, just dream about the fish we can get in dear old blighty.

mick

Actually Mick, I thought I saw some of this species (or something really similar) as contaminants in a batch of Homaloptera smithii the other day. Only reason I didn't get them was I was in a rush and didn't think the trained (maybe not) monkeys at this particular shop would be able to catch them easily without damage.

Martin.

mickthefish · Post by **mickthefish** » Sun Mar 15, 2009 4:33 pm

aren't you allowed to catch your own then mate?.

mick

palaeodave · Post by **palaeodave** » Sun Mar 15, 2009 4:49 pm

Martin Thoene wrote:
mickthefish wrote:Em, get the thumbscrews out. haha
Martin it was YOU who decided to go to Canada mate, just dream about the fish we can get in dear old blighty.

mick
Actually Mick, I thought I saw some of this species (or something really similar) as contaminants in a batch of Homaloptera smithii the other day. Only reason I didn't get them was I was in a rush and didn't think the trained (maybe not) monkeys at this particular shop would be able to catch them easily without damage.

Martin.

An endemic Taiwanese loach turning up in a Malay import?

I do still think it's odd that these fish don't look at all like the pictures on the species index, other than having vaguely the same shape as homalopterans...

Emma Turner · Post by **Emma Turner** » Sun Mar 15, 2009 5:14 pm

I've asked The.Dark.One to take a look, when he has time.

The.Dark.One · Post by **The.Dark.One** » Sun Mar 15, 2009 5:25 pm

Emma Turner wrote:I've asked The.Dark.One to take a look, when he has time.

They match the many photographs in "A Photographic Guide to the Inland-water Fishes of Taiwan Vol 1" of Crossostoma lacustre (or Formosiana lacustre depending on what classification you follow). There are two colour 'morphs', one more golden than the other, and the book says they may end up being different species or subspecies (there are already 3 other supposed junior synonyms of C. lacustre). Males in breeding condition get many tubercles on the head and cheeks. It says that aggressive territorial behaviour can be observed especially between adult individuals in competing for foraging or spawning sites.

Emma Turner · Post by **Emma Turner** » Sun Mar 15, 2009 5:46 pm

Very interesting! Thank you so much!

Emma

Thomas · Post by **Thomas** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:18 am

Today I got 4 of them. I bought 2 bigger und 2 smaller.

a few pics

Under a Barbatula:

Alone:

One of the smaller:

Thomas

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