Loach/goby indentification?

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Vincentp
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Loach/goby indentification?

Post by Vincentp » Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:01 am

I've got an unknown fish in my tank for a while now, and really want to know what species it is.
I don't think its a loach but i'm guessing you guys know the most about hillstreams than any other forum.


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The shop and the wholesale said it was an goby.
But an good friend of mine said it had a predator like mouth.

At first i thought is was an Pseudogobius sp. but indeed the mouth is different.
I'm hoping you guys can identify him, i love oddballs but i allso want to know its name and some information.

Azur
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Re: Loach/goby indentification?

Post by Azur » Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:04 am

Well it's definitely a goby. However, since it's a small freshwater goby of unknown origin, possibly female, without any distinguishing characteristics = I suspect even experts will struggle to ID that fish.

HappyPoet
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Re: Loach/goby indentification?

Post by HappyPoet » Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:55 am

It could very well be a female in the Rhinogobius Duospilus group.
http://topgon.deviantart.com/art/Rhinog ... -273666420

Azur
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Re: Loach/goby indentification?

Post by Azur » Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:26 pm

HappyPoet wrote:It could very well be a female in the Rhinogobius Duospilus group.
http://topgon.deviantart.com/art/Rhinog ... -273666420
Possibly a Rhinogobius, but not duospilus.

starsplitter7
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Re: Loach/goby indentification?

Post by starsplitter7 » Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:49 pm

Any idea on location and how big is this fish? Really interesting fish.

plaalye
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Re: Loach/goby indentification?

Post by plaalye » Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:38 pm

Nice looking fish. It may redigobious or pseudogobious. Definitely not r. duospilus. Post it on yahoogobygroup.

Vincentp
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Re: Loach/goby indentification?

Post by Vincentp » Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:39 am

Tnx for all the comments

I'm going to tri the yahoogobygroup and i will check those names, thanks.

Here's a older video from my tank.
on 3:40 you can see him very clearly.

mattyd
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Re: Loach/goby indentification?

Post by mattyd » Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:41 pm

Can you tell us where you live, Vincentp ? Might help narrow down where the fish could have come from (if it was a local fish, anyways...)

I know of someone in Australia who has a very large variety of gobys but he only keeps fish that are native to Australia. And there is also a group of people in the Australian Museum who are cataloging all the goby species in the Australasian pacific region, including doing genetic testing and cataloging. There are some very VERY interesting looking gobys around Australia.

Matt
5ft long rocky hillstream tank - Sewellia lineolata and spotted... and lots (and lots) of spotted fry
8ft Clown loach tank: 30+ clown loaches, 10+ Yoyos.
6ft tank for 16x botia kubotai, 13x Striata, 6x Sidthimunki - I need more sids

Vincentp
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Re: Loach/goby indentification?

Post by Vincentp » Thu Jan 12, 2012 4:18 pm

I live in The Netherlands Matt, and even the largest shops doens't know this goby.

I've posted it on some dutch forums, but nobody knows the name.
I'm trying to make some better photo's and some movies, and maybe the person you know knows this goby. i just need to find some goby experts.

I've also found an German goby forum, i'm posting the same story there.
If somebody there knows the name i'll be posting it here also :)

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Re: Loach/goby indentification?

Post by plaalye » Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:21 pm

Also try here...

http://ferraqua.de/
Jutta is very good with rhinogobius & others

And here....
http://www.seriouslyfish.com/forums/ind ... om/forums/

There are many undescribed gobies out there and little info about many that are described. I've received replies from Dr. Ronald Watson and Dr. Helen Larson, both high profile ichtyologists that specialize in gobies, at yahoogobygroup. It may take some time. But if you post the pics that you have you'll likely get an ID.

starsplitter7
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Re: Loach/goby indentification?

Post by starsplitter7 » Fri Jan 13, 2012 8:05 am

And if you find out, please let us know. :)

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Re: Loach/goby indentification?

Post by Kajsa12 » Sun Jan 15, 2012 5:51 am

Looks like a Pseudogobiopsis to me, probably a female specimen.

It might be useful to check the following two papers.

http://rmbr.nus.edu.sg/rbz/biblio/57/57rbz127-181.pdf

http://rmbr.nus.edu.sg/nis/bulletin2011 ... 63-367.pdf

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Re: Loach/goby indentification?

Post by Vincentp » Tue Jan 17, 2012 6:03 am

Kajsa12 wrote:Looks like a Pseudogobiopsis to me, probably a female specimen.

It might be useful to check the following two papers.

http://rmbr.nus.edu.sg/rbz/biblio/57/57rbz127-181.pdf

http://rmbr.nus.edu.sg/nis/bulletin2011 ... 63-367.pdf
You sir are my hero.
It is indeed the pseudogobiopsis oligactis.
Finally my fish has a name :)

Heel erg bedankt :D

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