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(Need Help) Loach I.D.

Post by Hlie » Sat Sep 01, 2007 4:32 pm

Just wondering if anyone here knows the I.D. of this loach here. TIA

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Post by Mark in Vancouver » Sat Sep 01, 2007 5:22 pm

Is that Schistura corica?

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Post by Hlie » Sat Sep 01, 2007 5:57 pm

Oh yeah, I got it from Petsmart while looking to get the horseface loach. It's "branded" as horseface by Petsmart. He's the only one in the tank mixed with tons of horseface.
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Post by mikev » Sat Sep 01, 2007 6:38 pm

Doubts it is Schistura corica... the bars are a bit too regular, more toward S.Beavani and there is a dot (rather than a bar) in the base of the tail -- this would indicate that it is a Nemacheilus rather than a Schistura.... (or a juv that did not form a bar yet?)

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Post by Hlie » Sat Sep 01, 2007 7:07 pm

It's about 2 inches. I also thought at first that it was S. beavani. But the "dot" made me think otherwise...
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Post by Emma Turner » Sat Sep 01, 2007 7:45 pm

I'm wondering about whether this could be a very young Nemacheilus pallidus. Is the upper lobe of the caudal fin longer than the bottom lobe?

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Post by Hlie » Sun Sep 02, 2007 2:36 am

I think the bottom one is shorter...
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Post by cybermeez » Sun Sep 02, 2007 11:34 am

I'm fairly certain it's a young Zipper Loach (Acanthocobitis botia). The spot on the caudal penduncle is the give away.
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Post by Emma Turner » Sun Sep 02, 2007 1:04 pm

The black basal caudal mark (spot) on the caudal peduncle is central and not high enough for it to be Acanthocobitis. Also, from what I can see in the pics, and Hlie's comments, the tail appears to be forked, and in Acanthocobitis it is almost truncate.

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Post by Graeme Robson » Sun Sep 02, 2007 1:05 pm

It is most certainly a Nemacheilus species of some sort. Very juvenile at the moment to tell.
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Post by mikev » Sun Sep 02, 2007 7:34 pm

Not a Zipper..but I had to dig out photos of mine when they were juv's to make sure.....but if it retains juv pattern at 2", would not this suggest that the adults are 4"+?

Hlie, whatever this is, it would be interesting to see how it develops...perhaps you would consider taking a photo every couple of months....
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Post by Hlie » Mon Sep 03, 2007 3:47 am

will do. thx for the help guys.
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Post by The.Dark.One » Mon Sep 03, 2007 6:49 am

I agree with Emma that it is a young Nemacheilus, possibly masyai, pallidus or even platiceps. We do need to see it as it grows.
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