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Leptobotia pellegrini or 8 inch clown loach?

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:30 am
by ckk125
Hello all

Any additional advice to keep one of them?

I could get one, which is cheaper than a 8 inch clown loach.

Getting either one of them, but i would like some info about the pellegrini before deciding.

Any suggetions and infomation will be greatly appreciated.

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 10:17 am
by Graeme Robson
Not much is known on these Chinese Loaches, since China cannot export many fish for the aquarium trade. Perhaps you can help us, with you keeping us up to date on how these loaches interact in a aquarium and which feedings are enjoyed most.

Here's a profile on what we know >> http://www.loaches.com/species-index/le ... pellegrini

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 10:36 am
by ckk125
True, the temptation to get something rare is big but the predatory part of it makes me think whether it is worth the risk or not.

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 10:59 am
by Emma Turner
I have a feeling it may not like quite such a high temperature as the clowns. Any chance of putting it in another tank, ckk?

Emma

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:01 am
by piggy4
Hi Ckk125, when you say predatory, what would their tank mates be ?
I've just looked at the pics over on the other thread , and i cant see the L.Pelegreni being able to predate on any of the fish in there ?

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:17 am
by ckk125
I have a feeling it may not like quite such a high temperature as the clowns. Any chance of putting it in another tank, ckk?

Emma
Nope. That is the problem...Emma, try and get these guys in. :evil:

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:26 am
by ckk125
piggy4 wrote:Hi Ckk125, when you say predatory, what would their tank mates be ?
I've just looked at the pics over on the other thread , and i cant see the L.Pelegreni being able to predate on any of the fish in there ?
It is stated in the article..I'm not sure....that is why i thinking hard whether to risk my small clown's lives or not...

I think i wouldnt get it..rather get some XL clowns again. 8)

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:37 am
by Graeme Robson
Without me knowing which tank you where thinking of keeping these in then you and Emma are correct on not keeping them in the Clown tank. I wouldn't class these as predatory though. Perhaps large crustaceans would be indulged eagerly though, like many other similar sized species.

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 1:47 pm
by Martin Thoene
I know that Joe Loach's Leptobotia elongata used to suck in feeder goldfish whole....slurp....gone! L. pellegrini look to have fairly large mouths so I would follow the "big fish eat little fish" rule of caution.

Certainly, being Chinese fish in origin they do not want to be kept at temperatures suitable for Clowns.

Martin.

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 1:52 pm
by Graeme Robson
The Leptobotia elongata loach is 3 times the size of the Leptobotia pellegrini when in adulthood.

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 2:07 pm
by mikev
This thing makes me very tempted..especially that they are available right now. I suspect that they can be kept at 75F-77F ok, at least L.Taenops looked pretty happy at this temp.

But I have a really bad feeling that it may take an interest in kuhlis....

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 10:46 pm
by ckk125
Oh well, just placed an order for 2 8+ inch clowns.

My aqurium, which is located outside, gets up to 31 degrees celcius during the day with the fan on just aint suitable for the Chinese loach.

2 weeks from now, 2 more addition to my giant loaches!
:D

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 1:14 am
by amiidae
L pellegrini

very good jumper, I lost a few in just one nite due to that - for a mere 2cm dia. opening.

keeping mine in tank abt 28C. They are fairly shy species but get active during feeding.

I would say... make room and go for it if have suitable tank / condition.

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 10:35 am
by mikev
amiidae,

will they attack or eat smaller loaches? (like kuhlis or small schisturas)

what are the tankmates in your tank?

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 12:32 pm
by amiidae
yes, they will eat smaller fishes like barb etc..

currently I keep mine with silver dollars, similar sized emperor loaches and a few catfishes without any sign of aggression.