Stiphodon genus of the Goby

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Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Post by plaalye » Fri Sep 21, 2012 12:02 am

nike wrote:Gorgeous photos!! I just discovered this thread.

This is my first time keeping gobies in a rimless tank and I put a mesh over the tank because I heard they are "jumpers". Does anyone know if this is true?
More like climbers. I think a closed top is always best. Personally I've lost my favorite sicyopterus. It climbed out of it's new home while exploring the boundaries and wasn't discovered until too late.

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Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Post by tyrano34 » Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:54 am

Hello,

Your tank was not closed?
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Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Post by plaalye » Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:09 pm

If you're referring to me Tyrano, it was mostly closed. Small gaps around the filters. They can get out if they want to.

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Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Post by tyrano34 » Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:48 pm

Gee I'm sorry for you, thank you for your sharing, I will prevent the aquarists that keeps of sicyopterus.
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Stiphodon of Okinawa in Japan

Post by odyssey » Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:48 am

Hi everyone!

Last December, I traveled to Okinawa subtropical climate at the southern end of Japan.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryukyu_Islands
The primary objective was to shoot the red nuptial coloration figure of Stiphodon alcedo.
Many amphidromous fries have been carried to Japan each year from the tropics by the Kuroshio Current.
In this time、the water temperature of the river of Okinawa was 16℃ to 18℃.
Probably their majority may not survive until spring.
That is why Okinawa becomes the northern limit of the distribution area of the Stiphodon genus.

Stiphodon alcedo which was published last year as a new species, We can see a lot recently in Okinawa.
:arrow: Stiphodon alcedo male in red nuptial coloration
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S.alcedo male in black nuptial coloration
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S.alcedo male in bluish nuptial coloration
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S.alcedo: three femailes and one male that has not come out nuptial coloration.
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Video clips of S.alcedo are uploaded to Youtube.
Red and Black
http://youtu.be/Rhho1dOseKg
Black and white
http://youtu.be/6UNQUeYFysM

:arrow: Stiphodon imperiorientis small male.
I was able to find Stiphodon imperiorientis for the first time.
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S.imperiorientis and S.alcedo.
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Video clips of S.imperiorientis.
http://youtu.be/etn2n2NIU8c

:arrow: Stiphodon atropurpureus.
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S.atropurpureus and S.alcedo.
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Video clips of S.atropurpureus.
http://youtu.be/DzZWy7WDzwo

:arrow: Stiphodon percnopterygionus
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S.alcedo male and S.percnopterygionus male.
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Video clips of S.percnopterygionus.
http://youtu.be/-XpFxK3Y3bA

:arrow: Sicyopus zosterophorum
Young male.
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Lentipes armatus male and Sicyopus zosterophorum? female.
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:arrow: Lentipes armatus male.
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Lentipes armatus male and female
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You may find five Lentipes if you look for it well.
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Video clips of Lentipes armatus and Sicyopus zosterophorum.
http://youtu.be/83w9OhgPNH0
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Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Post by shuwae » Mon Jan 14, 2013 3:19 am

Wow. I just love your photos of the gobies. It must be great to be able to see them in the wild. I wish more stiphodons were imported to the US.

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Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Post by Bustoff » Mon Jan 14, 2013 4:54 am

Beautiful pictures. I used to be stationed in Okinawa(Kadena AB)(USAF). It is goby heaven. Used to see and catch may Stiphodon and other goby species. And i used to watch the mudskippers skip along the surface of the water. (brackish area of the beach) Miss it. :(

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Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Post by tyrano34 » Mon Jan 14, 2013 5:04 am

tyrano34 wrote:hello everyone, wonderful reportage.

I share on the forum of Filipino for several months and I also share with them on facebook for save gobies,

An example: http://www.mypalhs.com/forums/showthrea ... -Stiphodon

the aquarists that joined me on my facebook group International know that right now, I do everything I can to save the gobies.

As of today the most endangered goby it is goby's Sulawesi lakes, this is my priority ...

http://www.aqualifestyle-france.com/t77 ... eat-danger

The loss of phytoplankton, sedimentation, the arrival of Cichlasoma all that is destroying this ecosystem.

As I'm aquarist responsible, I do not want to see this happen.

I managed to have the support of French researchers to develop protocols on the foods of larval gobies Mugilogobius.

If it works it will be a trail for other amphidromous gobies.

Until that it puts in place, I'm like you all about to try advanced in the world of Stiphodon.

I have great sympathy for you my friends, but now we must move forward, because our Stiphodon her in danger.

IT must share all our information together and ask the right questions to show the world that we aquarists responsible are for protecting species and not of destructive of species.

I'm waiting with forward the return of Professor Keith Philip, for move forward on this issue.

I have in my contacts researchers that working on gobies, so if you want to move forward on this subject, let me know.

We need to create topics on food, on water parameters, we try to understand why some species are endangered, what are the elements to trigger reproduction ...

Lots of questions a responsible aquarist should arise.

Sorry to be so harsh, but I appeal to all the aquarists of worldwide who love these gobies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU0I_S_N6to
river in northern Okinawa, so we advance when?
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Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Post by odyssey » Sun Jan 20, 2013 5:17 am

Bustoff wrote:And i used to watch the mudskippers skip along the surface of the water. (brackish area of the beach) Miss it. :(
Hi Bustoff
I have pictures of the madskipper just a little.

Mmudskipper (Periophthalmus argentilineatus) in Okinawa.
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The shot of mudskipper skiping along the surface of the water.
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Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Post by Bustoff » Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:09 am

Yes that is what i used to see Odyssey. All over the place. Lots of them LOL. I miss and love Okinawa so much. In fact there were a few small streams in the Munitions are(bomb dump) where i used to work on Kadena. I remember many gobies darting around. To fast to catch. Not sure if they where Stiphodons. About 6 miles inland.(11km)

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Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Post by Danelle Vivier » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:15 am

Hi Odyssey.

I have a few Sithopdons which were sold to me as S. atropurpureus. I've recently been told that they are not atropurpureus.
Could you tell me which species they are?

These are all photos from my tank and most probably the same male.

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Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Post by Swift-Tuttle » Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:46 am

Hi,

2 years ago i bought some loaches in my local store. I searched the web for some good information and discovered this forum.
The postings and pictures of Odyssey have learned me a lot. Many thanks to odyssey for that.

A few months ago i went on vacation to Indonesia. On a daytrip through the jungle we stoped at a small waterfall.
As my wife was taking a swim, I took the time to look for some fish. I thought it may be interesting to share them here.

I don't realy know wich species these are (except the semoni ones). I hope that the pictures are visible.
Sorry, if my English ain't good.

This is near Tomohon in north Sulawesi.
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These kili-type fish where in smal puddles at the sides of the river. Several puddles had a couple with kids.
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This is near Bomba, a smal town on the Togean Islands in central Sulawesi.
There wasn't a lot of curent in this part of the small river. Temp of the water was around 23 C.
This spot was about 3 kilometers from the sea.
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Same fish below, but whitout flash
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No idea what species this is, they have e Yellow and black spot on the dorsal fin.
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Females?
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Kind regards

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Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Post by odyssey » Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:53 am

Hi Danelle.
Good stiphodon!

I intend to prepare for those detailed photos and video clip.
Because there is not so time, as for the weekday, I intend to do a detailed reply on the weekend.
I am sorry, but keep you waiting for a few days.


Nice to meet you, Swift-Tuttle!
Thank you very much for sharing your wonderful photos of Sulawesi.
And wellcome to LOL.
It is very beautiful place.
Sulawesi is an island of yearning for scuba divers.
It is the place that I want to go by all means.

Because I intend to answer well on the weekend, for now, please permit it by a brief answer.
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Re S.semoni and S.atropurpureus

Post by odyssey » Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:07 am

Hi Danelle Vivier!

The dorsal fin of the S.atropurpureus turns into the black which was bordered red when it is the breeding season, but, as for the S.semoni, a dorsal fin seems to remain transparent even if it is in the breeding season.
The dorsal fin of your Stiphodon is black and can watch red hemming, besides.
Therefore, I think that it is S.atropurpureus.

Courtship behavior of Stiphodon semoni.
These are pasolaja's videos.
The dorsal fin remains a transparence.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eB-FBVIqtfY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl7LFD9z95c

Courtship behavior of S.atropurpureus.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izvcieO82xk

Another video of S.atropurpureus.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-R_ssrPvO_U
http://vimeo.com/17740908

Video clips of S.atropurpureus in my tank.
They always graze alge.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsGzfR22PK4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3EqvvbFQsU
http://youtu.be/L-PK0qVrN24

Hi Swift-Tuttle!

An examination for DNA is necessary to get the truth ...
I get advice from the expert of the goby, and they seem to be more likely to be S.semoni.
Sicyoputerus of your phots looks like S.lagocephalus from the pattern of the head.
http://forums.loaches.com/viewtopic.php ... 75#p198422

I am sorry, but I do not have knowledge about a fish except Stiphodon and Sicyoputerus at all.
I expect the commentary from a person knowing a lot about a freshwater fish of Sulawesi.

Stiphodon can change its color of the body intensely.
Therefore it is difficult to distinguish a species only in a color of the body.
Furthermore, it seems that a color of the body changes by an angle and the strength of the light as for S.semoni and S.atropurpureus.
This is because their color development mechanism is caused by a structure color not the light absorption by the pigment.
The structure color is famous as blue of the morpho butterfly.
The color of the body of S.semoni and S.atropurpureus change under conditions of light in particular sensitively.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structural_color
https://www.google.co.jp/search?q=Struc ... 20&bih=929

One of the hints to distinguish S.semoni from S.atropurpureus is said to be the difference of the position where the scale of the back disappears.
It seems to be the identification point that is convincing whether the scale of the back continues to the head side than a pectoral.
The one where a scale leads to to the head side than a pectoral is S.atropurpureus.
"Blue moon"(=? S.semoni) and S.atropurpureus
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Courtship behavior of S.atropurpureus in my tank.
They were sold as S.atropurpureus from Taiwan.
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Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Post by plaalye » Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:17 pm

"Courtship behavior of Stiphodon semoni.
These are pasolaja's videos.
The dorsal fin remains a transparence.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eB-FBVIqtfY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl7LFD9z95c"

That's me odyssey! :)

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