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HI odyssey
Thanks for ur reply, I went to west Java of Indo with my fisher man last year, and I have found some goby if possible I can send u some picture by email, some of it after I discuss with our team member could not know, hope u can help us.
The Stiphodon.sp "Raibow-color" and Stiphodon.sp orange fin all from Sumatra island I plan go there on March or Aprial to found more goby, because I found there are only this tow types goby export to China and Janpan, I did not see any one eales from that island so my Indo friend suggest me to visit the fisher there and go different river to find more types.
and also Halmahera Island I will visit after island Sumatra, by the way what do u think about Sangihe Island? is also the island in north of Indo.
For Stiphodon percnopterygionus do u think can find in the north of Indo? I know Taiwan has a lot of Stiphodon percnopterygionus group, but I still try to find if they have in Indo.
Please let me know if I can have ur email, because as u know China block a lot of website and I am also hard to put pics here.

Karim Li wrote: Please let me know if I can have ur email, because as u know China block a lot of website and I am also hard to put pics here.

Because a private email system is prepared in this forum, please try it

hi Odyssey，
Can you distinguish between S.atratus and S.ornatus ,it is Too difficult for me.
and，i found a problem：Sicyopus zosterophorum Is different in different watershed performance，The most obvious difference is that the first dorsal fin eye spot（S. zosterophorum from Sulawesi have the eye spot and S. zosterophorum from Taiwan does not ）， Have you found that？

sj861008 wrote:Can you distinguish between S.atratus and S.ornatus ,it is Too difficult for me.

Hi sj861008!

In fact, according to the book of "Indo-Pacific Sicydiine Gobies" of last note, S.atratus seems to have been unified by S.pelewensis!
Though I thought that I found the S.atratus in Australia with much effort, I'm disappointed to hear that S.atratus is the same species with S.pelewensis.
The habitation domain of S.pelewensis seems to be considerably large.

Becouse the variation of the appearance of S.ornatus is very large.
I do not have confidence to distinguish S.pelewensis from S.ornatus without habitat information.
I have no objection in particular even if it would be said that S.pelewensis is included in S.ornatus.

sj861008 wrote:and，i found a problem：Sicyopus zosterophorum Is different in different watershed performance，The most obvious difference is that the first dorsal fin eye spot（S. zosterophorum from Sulawesi have the eye spot and S. zosterophorum from Taiwan does not ）， Have you found that？

I have not noticed such the difference
However, the habitat of S.zosterophorum is vast from the Northern hemisphere to the Southern Hemisphere.
The statistical comparison of enough many individuals will be necessary to prove that it is not simple individual difference .

hi Odyssey
I recently got this book, according to your prompt I checked, the situation is really like this。
and about S.zosterophorum，i have a picture from youtube，here is the website：
http://photo.blog.sina.com.cn/photo/535 ... ZYuNVqWi8e
Thank you so much for your explanation.

Hi Odyssey,

This thread is wonderful and I am very glad I found it.
I am currently putting together a stiphodon tank and I have a question for you.
What substrate do you use? your substrate appears to be small white and clear rocks, but I was wondering if there is a specific name for it. Thank you for your time!!

Hi Taddei01, Wellcome to LOL!

Taddei01 wrote:What substrate do you use? your substrate appears to be small white and clear rocks, but I was wondering if there is a specific name for it.

Quartz sand(Silica) is most.
However various kinds of sand are mixed in the bottom sand of my water tank during long time.

I traveled to the Okinawa Island in the southern part of Japan in November of the last year.
Okinawa area is a subtropical climate.
I took several Stiphodon's pictures and video there.

Stiphodon percnopterygionus

Video clips in Youtube
school of S.percnopterygionus
https://youtu.be/Fo5LI7Kl7nY
S.percnopterygionus (blue)
https://youtu.be/J8Oc7itajMc
S.percnopterygionus (blue & red)
https://youtu.be/7sWazEMNNAA
Courtship action of S.percnopterygionus
https://youtu.be/5vur66KIdgY








Stiphodon atropurpureus
https://youtu.be/eMwrfBqHIvA


S.percnopterygionus S.atropurpureus S.alcedo



Sicyopus zosterophorum
https://youtu.be/llgF8SMiD6Y



Lentipes armatus

hi odyssey,beautiful picture，thank you. and i have a problem：I remember you have been to Bali Island ，Have you found Stiphodon atropurpureus from Japan（Including Taiwan） is different from Bali（Indonesia）about Their body color?I found that S.atropurpureus from Japan（Including Taiwan）is purple，and S.atropurpureus from Indonesia is green

I was not able to watch Stiphodn in Bali.

About body color:
Because the male color of the body of Stiphodon changes variously, I think that it is unreliable.
It's possible to change the male body color of Stiphodon intentionally.
Furthermore the color development greatly changes by the situation of the light at the time of the photography.

Thank you for your reply, for these, the information is too little on the Internet

Hi everyone!
I traveled to the Micronesian Pohnpei Island in July.
I visited three rivers and waterfalls in Pohnpei island and was able to encounter Stiphodon caeruleus and Stiphodon pelewensis.

https://www.google.co.jp/maps/place/Fed ... 0716?hl=en

Stiphodon caeruleus in Pohnpei island

Youtube video clips
Stiphodon caeruleus 1
https://youtu.be/XrQiSwY09bs
Stiphodon caeruleus 2
https://youtu.be/e3H217aWXYo
Stiphodon caeruleus 3
https://youtu.be/9fKUa5OEXcs

Sahwartik waterfall
https://youtu.be/gWuA2lGVnwg




















The middle line of its forehead turns into black and metallic blue from white under conditions of light




















Stiphodon pelewensis in Pohnpei island

Youtube video clips
Stiphodon pelewensis 1
https://youtu.be/u0dloDvvH8Y
Stiphodon pelewensis 2
https://youtu.be/yybNQ8BOOCA
Kepirohi waterfall
https://youtu.be/LAW86DMsnAk

Hi odyssey,Beautiful pictures and videos，thank you for share，
I was the first time to see Stiphodon caeruleus ，it is so amazing。
about S.pelewensis,I find it very big，What is the length of it？and does that blue face guy in the Estrus？
I like seeing a sicyopterus in one of these videos，do you know which genus ？
Last question：You haven't been to Sumatra？the habitat of Stiphodon ornatus。

Hi sj861008

sj861008 wrote:about S.pelewensis,I find it very big，What is the length of it？and does that blue face guy in the Estrus？
I like seeing a sicyopterus in one of these videos，do you know which genus ？
Last question：You haven't been to Sumatra？the habitat of Stiphodon ornatus。

The most large size of Stiphodon pelewensis which I saw was probably 6-7cm.
Blue face is male's typical estrus expression of Stiphodon genus.

I uploaded Sicyopterus lividus pictures in the following thread in this forum.
http://forums.loaches.com/viewtopic.php ... 75#p203696

You can find other picture in this page.
http://www.comfsm.fm/~brianl/tropical.html

Sicyopterus lividus and Stiphodon caeruleus are endemic species of the Micronesia.
They are known only in 2 adjacent islands.

I have not yet been to Sumatra.
Becaus Sumatra island is too big and cannot communicate in English, it is difficult to search without local support.

Hi odyssey，I am longing for your life.I plan to go there next year.and thank you for share these。
by the way ，Do you use social software？facebook ，Twitter or instagram ？Could you introduce to me？