Kordon Ich Attack
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Kordon Ich Attack
So I am currently treating for Ich, and instead of using malachite green I am using Kordon Ich Attack. I learned about this stuff on a Cichlid Forum where I am a member and I wanted to know if anyone here uses this stuff instead of other Ich treatments.
I think I like the fact the stuff is organic, and may be easier on the tank inhabitants, but is it as effective?
I think I like the fact the stuff is organic, and may be easier on the tank inhabitants, but is it as effective?
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In my planted 55g community tank I'm treating:starsplitter7 wrote:I haven't used this product. It may help if someone with more experience knows what type of fish you are treating and if you are treating in a Quarantine tank or in your main tank?
Did you read the ick treatment article? It is very good about the life cycle of Ick and how to destroy it.
4 juvenille clowns (all less than 6")
1 guianacara sphenozona (South American eartheater cichlid about 5" long)
1 female gold gourami (about 6")
1 common pleco (about 6.5")
2 male red-eye tetra (about 2-3")
The last Ich out break was in May, after treating with malachite green and increased water temps and copius gravel cleanings and water changes, I lost 3 fish (1 clown, 1 neon tetra, 1 male gold gourami). I think I treated for 15 days. Only things I added to the tank were plants that had been quarantined.
My guess is that I didn't kill it all, and it resurged in July, where I treated briefly w malachite green, and now have switched to this new stuff.
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http://www.novalek.com/kordon/ich_attack/index.htmchefkeith wrote:I think I once read at the Kordon website that their organic ich treatments work best as a prophylactic treatments against ich.
Hi Chef!
Yes, you are right it does work that way, but I think if I read this right, it can also be used to treat Ich after it does get started. Anyway, I have been dosing twice a day 25ML when I wake up, and another 25ML when I get home from work. I also have increased the temp of the water, and will do another WC tomorrow.
Ummmm...not anything unusual. I was getting ready to replace the clown I lost in May/June when I spotted (pun intended) more Ich. Everything else has been pretty normal.starsplitter7 wrote:Have you had any stresses in the tank? It seems that much of the research I have read, states that ick exists in most tanks, but that it pops out in times of stress.
I hope to the first!Diana wrote:I have heard more negatives than positives about this product. Basically it did not work for the people that posted about it.
I am on my second bottle of the stuff. I haven't seen any white spots on my clowns and my cichlid is white, so I can't see any spots on it either. It has been almost a week since I have seen spots. I am just going to continue to treat the water until I run out of the stuff. Can't seem to hurt since it is organic and can be used as a preventative.
OK, so my experience continues with Kordon Ich Attack...
I am just about through my second bottle of the stuff, and have been feeling pretty good about things. Until yesterday. I was sitting here at my desk, with laptop doing some paperwork. I tossed a couple bits of broccoli in to my tank, and decided to watch the feeding frenzy.
I sat, and I sat and no frenzy, but then I did notice my white cichlid make a slow rotation sideways, and he began flashing...ugh. Since there were no other tankmates nearby, this was not a standard show of dominance, but was a sign that the Ich lives. I may be abandoning Kordon's Ich Attack for Malachite Green.
I must be the worst fish keeper ever.
I am considering a new tactic in addition to the widely accepted tactics, and I want to get some feedback on it before I do it. I am considering removing the gravel substrate while I treat for Ich. I think that with no place for Ich to hide in the substrate I can more effectively treat all the water, and ensure all the water is the same temp.
So what are the pros and cons of this idea?
I am just about through my second bottle of the stuff, and have been feeling pretty good about things. Until yesterday. I was sitting here at my desk, with laptop doing some paperwork. I tossed a couple bits of broccoli in to my tank, and decided to watch the feeding frenzy.
I sat, and I sat and no frenzy, but then I did notice my white cichlid make a slow rotation sideways, and he began flashing...ugh. Since there were no other tankmates nearby, this was not a standard show of dominance, but was a sign that the Ich lives. I may be abandoning Kordon's Ich Attack for Malachite Green.
I must be the worst fish keeper ever.
I am considering a new tactic in addition to the widely accepted tactics, and I want to get some feedback on it before I do it. I am considering removing the gravel substrate while I treat for Ich. I think that with no place for Ich to hide in the substrate I can more effectively treat all the water, and ensure all the water is the same temp.
So what are the pros and cons of this idea?
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Thanks Starsplitter. I really need to fix this before I go out of town at the end of the month. I also know that while I have had the water warm (83-84F), it needs to be 86F to really help kill off the parasite. I know that in order to ensure the water in the gravel is warm enough, I should have the heat set to 90. I was just thinking that if I remove the gravel, I can set the heat to less than 90. Was also thinking I could soak the gravel in a malachite green solution, and then replace the gravel after a few days.
I have made some efforts to increase the oxygen with two air stones, a powerhead to create ripples on the water surface, and allow water level in the tank to be a little lower, allowing water from my HOB filter to fall into the tank.
I also think that Kordon's product is not that effective, I am a little disappointed.
I have made some efforts to increase the oxygen with two air stones, a powerhead to create ripples on the water surface, and allow water level in the tank to be a little lower, allowing water from my HOB filter to fall into the tank.
I also think that Kordon's product is not that effective, I am a little disappointed.
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Be careful that you don't accidentally destroy your biofilter/film in the process. You don't want to be flung into a recycling of the tank. I did that once during treatment. Do you have another filter running on another tank so you can use it if you crash your tank? I wouldn't remove the gravel. I would just vacuum it a lot and change water every day.
Well I never thought of that, thanks for that insight. I REALLY don't want to subject my fish to a filter crash and recycle situation. OK so I guess instead I will take out the large rocks and clean them, but leave the substrate in tact.starsplitter7 wrote:Be careful that you don't accidentally destroy your biofilter/film in the process. You don't want to be flung into a recycling of the tank. I did that once during treatment. Do you have another filter running on another tank so you can use it if you crash your tank? I wouldn't remove the gravel. I would just vacuum it a lot and change water every day.
So first, I should re-read the Ich article to make sure I haven't missed anything, and then gravel vac, WC and treat w malachite green.
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