Help identifying this one

jfranca · Post by **jfranca** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 8:07 pm

Hi, all

This one was being sold as botia sidthimunki, but I'm pretty sure it's not.

Right now, I'm between Botia almorhae, Botia histrionica or Botia rostrata.

Any guesses?

Mine goes to Botia histrionica.

BTW... yes, that is ich. So far I've managed to kill 3 like this one trying to get rid of ich, without luck with the ich itself.

Best,
Jorge

mikev · Post by **mikev** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 8:10 pm

More likely, young B.Kubotai. There is a forming horizontal connection between vertical stripes.

Graeme Robson · Post by **Graeme Robson** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 8:18 pm

Hi Jorge. Welcome to Loaches Online.

Most certainly looks like a juvenile Botia Kubotai. Here's a Profile link> http://forums.loaches.com/viewtopic.php?t=2729

Which type of treatment are you using for Ich?

jfranca · Post by **jfranca** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 2:45 pm

Graeme,

I'm using JBL Punktol. I saw her this morning (she only comes out at night and in the morning) and she still has it. The last time I used the medicine was 2 days ago.

Regarding the identification, I suppose you experts know best, but I still think she resembles more these guys than the one you mentioned. Is the horizontal connection that important?

I suppose the difficulty arises from her being still a juvenile. If she survives these hard times, it should be more easy to identify.

I don't know if it helps, but I'm posting a picture of one of the others who died in the mean time. It's supposed to be the same kind. Or not...

Graeme Robson · Post by **Graeme Robson** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:21 pm

Good luck with the treatment, Jorge. They do look in bad shape with their fins clamped.

Have you tried raising the temperature, to speed up the Ich life cycle?

Juvenile Botia kubotai are at times difficult to identify but i'm pretty sure on this one. We are busy in the process of finding Robin's images where it shows us the growth in stages of a Botia kubotai. A while back, this had us all debating long into the night on which species it was.

Perhaps Martin/Jim/Emma/Shari have these images at hand?

shari2 · Post by **shari2** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:26 pm

Ok. Here they are. I changed the url's on all of them to see if it would access them and voila!

Loach #1 on January 3, 2004

Loach #1 taken on January 27, 2004

Loach #1 taken on February 20, 2004

Loach #1 taken on March 2, 2004

Loach #1 taken March 22, 2004

Loach # 2 taken on March 2, 2004

Loach #2 taken March 22, 2004

Loach #1 right and #2 on left taken on September 25, 2004

Here they are today, December 12, 2004 Loach #1 right and #2 on left.

Link to the archived discussion thread:

Evolution of baby kubotai markings

Graeme Robson · Post by **Graeme Robson** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:38 pm

Much appreciated Shari.

Emma Turner · Post by **Emma Turner** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:55 pm

Excellent, Shari. Thank you for taking the time to find them and edit all the url's.

I take it these are going to be included on the new species index? I suppose they could either go in the B. kubotai profile, or else a separate thread entirely, such as Martin's created for the tiger loaches and red lizard loaches.

Emma

jfranca · Post by **jfranca** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 4:02 pm

Graeme Robson wrote:Good luck with the treatment, Jorge. They do look in bad shape with their fins clamped. Have you tried raising the temperature, to speed up the Ich life cycle?

Graeme,

Yes I did, and it worked this time. No more ich and thanks to Shari's images I'm am now the proud and no longer sceptic owner of a happy juvenile Botia kubotai.

Jorge

Graeme Robson · Post by **Graeme Robson** » Fri Nov 03, 2006 4:11 pm

Superb!

Is it possible you could add some more Botia kubotai?

shari2 · Post by **shari2** » Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:13 am

Just to be honest--those aren't my pics. They were taken by Cybermeeze

I just found them in the archives...

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