Stiphodon genus of the Goby

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Post by wasserscheu » Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:45 am

I am fascinated, many thanks.

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Post by afroturf » Mon Dec 01, 2008 6:40 am

Ditto everyone elses comments that this is a super topic, with great photos.

You make me very envious of your collection as gobies are by far my favourite group of fish.I particularly like your percnopterygionus.

As I mentioned before I have a couple I believe to be S. elegans? I also reciently brought a couple of Stiphodons very similar to your 'orange fin' they are still rather thin and only eat algae, no bloodworm etc. have you noticed this with your 'orange fins'?

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Post by odyssey » Tue Dec 02, 2008 11:04 am

Hi Cup.
Nice to meet you. Thanks in advance for your help.

Hi Graeme , TKK , NancyD , wasserscheu.
All of you like my post, and I am glad.
I show some more links ,habitats and stamps.

(1) Melanesia Papua New Guinea.
http://www.marlin1charters.com.au/png.html

(2) Melanesia Fiji .
http://pdf.dec.org/pdf_docs/Pnacx238.pdf

(3) A stamp of Fiji.
http://www.stampsfiji.com.fj/stamps/fre ... index.html

(4) Other rare Stiphodon and close species.
http://www.rainbowfish.info/forum/viewt ... f=18&t=276

Hi afroturf.
afroturf wrote:they are still rather thin and only eat algae, no bloodworm etc. have you noticed this with your 'orange fins'?
I keep both the algae-grazer fish and the worm-eater fish.
Therefore it is necessary to feed of a frozen bloodworm regularly.
I repeated dropping a bloodworm with a filler or tweezers in their close at hand.
However, there is the individual which is not going to eat it even if I stand how many years.
I think that alga(Aufwuchs) is staple food for them, and a bloodworm is side dishes.

I have kept several S.percnopterygionus in around 6 years.
They are going to never eat anything other than algae.
However, only once I watched the scene which they ate anything other than algae.
When I had uncovered their nest without knowing that it is so, they have eaten their own eggs.

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Post by afroturf » Wed Dec 03, 2008 12:03 pm

Odyssey, good to hear that some of your gobies only eat algae too, hopefully my 'orange fins' will fatten up soom.

In the second photo of the female Stiphodon and the eggs, there seems to be one of my all time favourite fish a Schismatogobius, am I correct? got any photos of them? I happened to come across some whilst visiting a friend at uni and only had enough money to buy a couple, one unfortunately died soon after being put into the tank so I'm only left with one, He's a super little fish though..

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Schismatogobius.sp.

Post by odyssey » Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:07 am

Hi afroturf.
Yes that is Schismatogobius.sp.

I am keeping them for about two years.
They are complete worm-eater.
They have learned there is no food except feeding time.
Therefore, they do not show the appearance excluding the time of feeding.

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and Taro's Japanese website.
http://www17.tok2.com/home2/tarogoby/zu ... esosp.html
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Post by NancyD » Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:07 am

Wow that one has a BIG mouth!
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Post by Graeme Robson » Thu Dec 04, 2008 5:17 pm

The Schismatogobius.sp is fascinating! 8)
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Post by afroturf » Fri Dec 05, 2008 7:06 am

Brilliant photos again odyssey, how many schismatogobius do you have?

Nancy, They do have possibly the largest mouth compared to the size of the fish I've ever seen. When I had two they'd often joust with each other by opening their mouths as wide as they could, the inside of their mouth was bright orange, it was a fascinating sight. Never managed to get a photo of them doing this unfortunately.

The last one I have spends 95% of the time in an area measuring 8"x4" even thought the tank base is 24" x 38"

Obyssey mine isn't quite a darkly coloured as yours any idea what species yours is I believe mine to be S. bruynisi

thought I'd share a few photos too.

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Post by wasserscheu » Fri Dec 05, 2008 7:31 am

again, excellent, to say the least 8)

You make me wondering about getting Schismatogobius too, as they are occasionally on sale (but not very rare). They look very tempting on your guys pictures.
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Post by odyssey » Sat Dec 06, 2008 3:38 am

Hi NancyD ,Graeme ,afroturf ,wasserscheu.
I feel that there are quite many people liking a goby delightfully.
afroturf wrote:Brilliant photos again odyssey, how many schismatogobius do you have?
Obyssey mine isn't quite a darkly coloured as yours any idea what species yours is I believe mine to be S. bruynisi
I keep by two of them in two tanks; probably. It is not easy to confirm their survival.
I have few photographs, besides, because they do not readily turn up.
I don't so know a lot about Genus Schismatogobius. Thus I do not understand a scientific name and the details.
There is possibility of the protective coloration to the circumference in the difference of their color of the body.
http://www.petfrd.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8667

This time,I introduce Genus Sicyopterus that is closely related Genus Siphodon.
They have a big body in comparison with stiphodon.
However, they are very timid for a figure. When I approach, they hide immediately.

(1) Sicyopterus.sp (A) imported. The sale name in Japan was "mountain rock goby".
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(2) Sicyopterus.sp (B) imported. They are S. lagocephalus or the close species.
They inhabit the Japanese southernmost extreme neighborhood if it is S. lagocephalus.
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(3) A and B
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(4) Young individual of Sicyopterus japonicus.
They inhabit the Japanese central part southward.
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I am sorry, but a reply becomes considerably late because I will go for a trip next week.
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Post by wasserscheu » Sat Dec 06, 2008 5:03 am

Incredible cute pictures, sooo sweet.

On the 2nd picture, the first small one on the left is one I have too (only one piece, that is the one that seems to eat no worms).
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Post by Graeme Robson » Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:41 am

I would love to keep some of them Sicyopterus sp in one of my river tanks. 8)
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Post by waterfaller1 » Sat Dec 06, 2008 10:05 am

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I just spent a few minutes looking at these great photos,. I will have to go back and read this whole thread. Absolutely amazing fish! I am jealous of the orange fins! I keep Stiphodon sp. Sold to me as Blue & red Sumatran neon gobys. I love them , they are fascinating fish. Off to look for orange fin...... :lol:
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Philippine River

Post by odyssey » Sun Dec 14, 2008 7:54 am

Hi! wasserscheu, Graeme.
Nice to meet you waterfaller1.

I took newly hot information home to the all of you who liked Stiphodon and Sicyopterus.
In fact, I went to Philippine for trip to diving last week.
I observed in not only the saltwater but also the freshwater and took a lot of pictures.

I was able to watch therefore a lot of Stiphodon and Sicyopterus.

I think that probably Stiphodon sp is S.atropurpureus or the close species.
As for Sicyopterus sp, I do not have an idea at all.

Optionally, there were shrimp and crab, snail a lot.

I took the video clip too.
In freshwater
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=viNzFMjLaWs
In saltwater
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=TY8YftRJFaQ

Male. S.atropurpureus or the close species.
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Female. S.atropurpureus or the close species.
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Male and female. S.atropurpureus or the close species.
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Sicyopterus sp.
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Shrimp and crab, snail.
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Crab catching.
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Post by andyroo » Sun Dec 14, 2008 9:34 am

I love ecology and biogeography and evolution.
These photos look exactly like my favorite snorkeling/collection spots here- river, water, gobies, crabs, prawns and snails; all the same but for colours and details. ...and the colonial/slavery-era historical tid-bits over the bottom. [/i]
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