New Baby Loach! Need ID, Updated Pics

chris1932 · Post by **chris1932** » Sun May 27, 2007 11:49 pm

I was cleaning my Fluval canisters today and I dumped all the water in a five gallon bucket. I went back after an hour and sure enough there was a little guy! I have no idea what it is so here are some pictures. There are the following groups of fish in the tank.

Sewellia
Confuzona
Beufortia
Wui
Chenni
Weathereds

mikev · Post by **mikev** » Mon May 28, 2007 12:36 am

Do you have Goby's in the tank too?

chris1932 · Post by **chris1932** » Mon May 28, 2007 2:20 am

I do not have any gobies in my river tank. Just Loaches.

Emma Turner · Post by **Emma Turner** » Mon May 28, 2007 4:25 am

Whatever they are, congratulations are in order, Chris!

Would you be able to give a rough estimate of size? In that 2nd picture there appears to be 2 fry (one smaller than the other) or are my eyes playing tricks?

Emma

Emma Turner · Post by **Emma Turner** » Mon May 28, 2007 4:28 am

I should add that they do not resemble any of the Sewellia lineolata fry I've been priveleged to see, as even at a tiny size, they have pigmented markings all over the body. Also, from what I've seen, weather loaches appear to show long barbels at a very young age and I can't see any in your pics.

Emma

Graeme Robson · Post by **Graeme Robson** » Mon May 28, 2007 5:47 am

Congrats Chris!!

It's just a guessing game at the moment but at least Emma has ruled out the Sewellia lineolata for us.

Jim Powers · Post by **Jim Powers** » Mon May 28, 2007 9:50 am

Very cool!!! Doesn't look like cheni either.

helen nightingale · Post by **helen nightingale** » Mon May 28, 2007 10:21 am

congrats Chris! its exciting, whichever species it grows into

Graeme Robson · Post by **Graeme Robson** » Mon May 28, 2007 10:47 am

For some reason my first instincts told me H Confuzona.

Good luck in raising the fry.

Jim Powers · Post by **Jim Powers** » Mon May 28, 2007 11:46 am

That would be amazing!

Martin Thoene · Post by **Martin Thoene** » Mon May 28, 2007 1:01 pm

Cute......now we need development photos like Emma's Sewellia. I played around with it to see if I could see more......not really

Its size now is important. Here's LES's pic of two different aged P. cheni. The top one is pretty young yet shows markings that your one doesn't have. Knowing the size of your's compared to LES's little one would be useful.

Emma's baby Sewellia lineolata looked like this at relatively small size. Her pics were hosted at loachtank.org which seems to be down. This is a pic that Graeme edited for clarity:

Your second to last head on pic clearly shows wide pectoral fins similar to other babies of this family at this small size.

Martin.

Emma Turner · Post by **Emma Turner** » Mon May 28, 2007 2:49 pm

I'm just trying to sort through my early S. lineolata fry pics for comparison. Here's one of a fry from the 3rd batch I found, size wise for comparison, the ceramic tubes measure 18mm long:

As you can see, very well pigmented already, even against a light background.

I think I have a few slightly earlier shots of the first batch somewhere, will keep looking....

Emma Turner · Post by **Emma Turner** » Mon May 28, 2007 2:52 pm

And this one I think is of an even smaller fish, from the very first batch I found back in June '06. (This pic was taken 4 days earlier than the b&w one Martin found):

Emma

chris1932 · Post by **chris1932** » Mon May 28, 2007 6:01 pm

I have been thinking about this little lone fry. I have been pondering a few things.

Up to yesterday this fry lived in total darkness, black cased Fluval canister. Could this throw off pigmentation development?

There are two Sumo loaches that I forgot about. They are very small two inches max. I doubt it could be them.

This fry is very yellow and almost translucent.

I tried very hard to get an accurate size but it is not easy, this little dude boggies around at light speed.

I have given bbs and Hikari first bites as food it eats both with enthusaism.

In the last month I have started feeding bbs to the river tank when I have more than I need for Angels and Apistos, I hate to waste. All of the inhabitants of the river tank forage for them digging and rooting about. Could it be that having this source of food triggered spawning? I know that if I couldnt feed a child I wouldnt have one?

Here are some pictures of the fry from today along with some river tank pics. You all have no idea how happy this makes me. I almost put up a post last week to say I was going to sell the 150g river tank, inhabitants and all. I am in need of tank space. I have Cichlids coming out of my you know what. This lone fry was the sign I was looking for. River tank stays.

Jim Powers · Post by **Jim Powers** » Mon May 28, 2007 6:13 pm

That's too cool a river tank to tear down. I'm glad you're keeping it.

By the way, you forgot to mention you have Homaloptera smithi, so there is another option.

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