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shari2
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Post by shari2 » Tue Sep 30, 2008 12:19 am

Ah, T,
Sorry to get to this so late.
Yes, it looks like very nasty ich with complications.

The female I don't think is gravid. She appears to be more bloated to me. With gravid fish you can usually notice a demarcation line between the muscle above the lateral line and the abdomen. Also her vent is very red and distended and there's either an injury or a sore alongside it.

The male is very greyed out, and positively has ich and it may be too late... :cry:
I'd start with the Jungle Ick clear if I were you. Avoid anything with copper in it. The Ich X would work, but given the sad state of your male, the formaldehyde might be too much for him, on the other hand, if those grey patches on the female were velvet, the Jungle product won't touch it.

Whatever you do, do NOT move any of these fish into a healthy tank unless there are no other fish in it. Ich often starts in the gills where it is unseen until it is very well established.

Are you sure it was a fight that created injuries or could they be sores? Something must have gone off in the tank in either case. Stressed fish will get aggressive sometimes, too. All the other fish in the tank seem fine?
Do me a favor and after lights out shine a flashlight on several fish. If you see anything like a silver/gold sheen start thinking velvet. It sometimes is not rusty/gold colored at all, but more like a fine powdery coating on the surface of the scales.
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Post by starsplitter7 » Tue Sep 30, 2008 12:32 am

Thanks so much Shari.

I lost my female today. The male is still with me. I will try some Jungle Ick Clear in the morning. I want to be awake to watch him for an adverse reaction. I will do the flashlight test too.

I know there was a fight, because all the clowns have injuries, bites and gouges especially on the face, down the nose, . . . Obvious injuries. All the other fish in the tank look fine. No obvious stress, bites, sores, . . . nothing. I just can't believe I missed the signs of Ick on the sick one. Augh!

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Post by starsplitter7 » Tue Sep 30, 2008 12:11 pm

Thanks to everyone for your support. I very much appreciate it.

I lost my female yesterday. Augh! My male is hanging on and his color is much better, and he is swimming a bit, but he is clamped. I have the temp at 84, two filters (no carbon -- just floss -- with some yuck from the main tank), and last night I added a UV sterilizer, built specifically for Green water, but says it works on pathogens too. I have a limited budget, so this was the best I could do (Also the only one available. AAUV9W Says it works up to 53 gallons. I have it in a 10.

This is what I bought.
http://aa-aquarium.com/showroom4.php?id=156&level=1

I figure it won't fix the problem, but it can't hurt. I will be cleaning the bottom of the tank too.

I added 1/2 Jungle Ick medication. Victoria Green and Acrifalavin. I just hope the fish survives the treatment.

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Post by loachmom » Tue Sep 30, 2008 12:47 pm

Sorry about the female. :cry: Hang in there, Tanja.

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Post by starsplitter7 » Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:09 pm

Amazingly, the male with the ick seems to be doing better, much to my great surprise.

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Post by chefkeith » Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:48 pm

I hope he recovers. Ich treatments can be a real daunting task especially if there is relapse. Hang in there.

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