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H. smithi contaminants

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 2:37 pm
by Emma Turner
Apologies for the poor lighting in these pics. We got several of these beauties in with our last batch of Homaloptera smithi. What species do you think they are? They look a lot like H. yunnanensis to me:

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Here with Garra cambodgiensis:

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And a short (30 sec) vid of one of these loaches hanging on in the flow (turn the sound down, it is my noisy camera):

:arrow: http://s88.photobucket.com/albums/k183/ ... CN5128.flv

(The loach in the video is a good size at 3" TL).

Emma

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:06 pm
by Thomas
Hi Emma,

great pics!

I guess I had the same species between my H. smithi. I had two of these, sadly both died after a few days. I only could see fungus on their skin.

I would also say they are H. yunnanensis

Here is a pic of mine
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Bye,
Thomas

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 4:34 pm
by Jim Powers
I would say they are yunnanensis also.
They show up in almost every shipment I see of smithi around here.
That looks to be a large specimen.

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:26 pm
by Cup
every time you post a photo session topic, I lament about not living in England.

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 10:53 pm
by helen nightingale
they are beautifull. we need a drool smiley

3 species Homaloptera

Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 8:22 am
by odyssey
I am keeping this kind or a close species now in the past, too.

Probably I think that it is H.yunnanensis.
I uploaded the video clip that it ate algae in Youtube.
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=c8Z9yUsjyQQ
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I resemble H.yunnanensis very much. However, the scale seems to be small.
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????? It resembles closely, but it may be a different kind.
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I believe that it is H.smithi.
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Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 10:10 am
by Jim Powers
Nice pictures.
The fish with the black lower tail fin (picture #7) is Homaloptera zollingeri

Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 11:34 pm
by odyssey
High Jim. Thank you for showing the scientific name.

Homaloptera yunnanensis ate only algae first. Some bloodworms came to eat after having passed more than one year.

H. zollingeri and H.smithi ate only a bloodworm first, but eat the flake hood if they move when tame.

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 2:20 pm
by Thomas
Wants to dig out this thread.

Today I got three new H. yunnanensis. And one big H. smithi and 5 small Homaloptera, I guess a mix between H. smithi and H. tweediei.

I hope this time I have more luck with them

A small one with about 3,5cm (1,3 inch)
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And a bigger one with about 5cm (2 inch). The third is also 2 inch
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Some of the five small smithi/tweediei are a bit skinny, but I'm hopefully they fatten up with the time. They are very agile.
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Bye,
Thomas

Neohomaloputera

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:36 am
by odyssey
Hi Thomas. I participate, too.

All of you might already know, but I found the information of Neohomaloputera.
Neohomaloputera johorensis seems to inhabit Indonesian Kalimantan Tengah.
http://www7.ocn.ne.jp/~fishmate/neohoma.html

I think that Neohomaloputera johorensis resembles H.smithi and H.tweediei very much.

I add some pictures of Homaloptera again.
Homaloptera yunnanensis
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Homaloptera zollingeri. A mouth sticks out.
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Homaloptera smithi.
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Odyssey

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:43 pm
by Nonn
Homaloptera sexmaculata do share habitat with H. smithi in Thailand, and yours look like one of them. They come with H. smithi all the time in our local store as well.

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:16 am
by odyssey
Hi, Nonn.
Thank you very much for the information about Homaloptera sexmaculata.
Indded H.sexmaculata resembles H.yunnanensis.
Where will the difference of both be?

I found the interesting site when I looked for web based on your information.
Though I do not understand it at all, as for the Thai words, the photograph is very interesting.
http://www.siamensis.org/oldboard/5341.html

I will travel in the future to Thailand and want to observe it in a river.

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 11:38 am
by Nonn
To tell you the truth, I don't know what is/are difference(s) between the two species. I just based my ID on the fact that it came with H. smithi and that it looked like what we IDed as H. sexmaculata. In Thailand we found this two species together in the Eastern provinces and this area is the major collection area of H. smithi so....that was how I came up with H. sexmaculata. BTW, H. smithi is probably the most common species of Homaloptera in Thailand.

The link you provided some of the pictures are mine.

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:00 am
by odyssey
Hi Nonn.
Nonn wrote:The link you provided some of the pictures are mine.
Possibly is it you to do snorkeling in a river?

I think that it is often that H.yunnanensis and H. smithi are imported at the same time to Japan.
It seems to be very likely that, in fact, the species that I thought to be H.yunnanensis was H.sexmaculata.

Thank you very much for valuable information.