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I would love to breed the Asian Clown Loach and not hear (can not be done or never heard anyone that has done it)Well! I am here to learn how and reaching out in asking please give me your advice in how.. I am looking for people who have succecfuly breed this nice looking fish.
Are their any out there?

jjjwhitewolf@yahoo.com

aka/ Freshwater Angelfish breeder

John in S.W.Florida

FWIW:

Do a search on Google using "how to breed the Clown Loach".

There are a few good web pages that discuss this.

I doubt that the breeders of the exported clowns will ever tell how they get the job done.

Haven't got anything constructive to say, other that good luck. I truly hope you succeed.

Asian (IE: the long monstrous one from cooler water) or Indonesian/Bornean (the "regular" one, also large)
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I'm not sure if the cool-water monster is very common in the industry. There was a guy here a couple of months ago who had found a few and was going to breed them. Highly endangered, apparently.

The regular one requires either a) hormone therapy or b) a huge riparian system that you can flood seasonally.

Read This http://forums.loaches.com/viewtopic.php?t=18262
Cheers Graeme.

There was an article years ago where someone claimed to have bred them. He reckoned he'd lef the tank for ages without a water change. His filters were working ok but the nitrates and salt levels were raised. He reckoned that he had simulated the dry spell and once he changed the water (reduced salts and lower temperature) it triggered spawning. I wouldn't know how to find the article but I recall it was from Practical Fishkeeping magazine from the UK.

I wouldn't know how to find the article but I recall it was from Practical Fishkeeping magazine from the UK.

The article is (in)famous in long-term loach-keeper's-circles due to its totally unsubstantiated nature.

People really need to search all the info we have available on LOL.

http://www.loaches.com/articles/clown-l ... ated-items

Martin.

If you are speaking of regular clown loaches then it has been done here in the US for a few years now. The University of FL was the first to successfully develop a commercialized protocol for production. It involves the use of hormone injection and hand stripping the fish for eggs/sperm. Quite involved process, but highly successful if done right.


-Ryan

Ryan,
I'd love to know more about this- do you know the reference?
There are a couple of Koi and Iridescent shark breeders/producers on the island, so the basic materials and know-how are available.
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andyroo wrote:Ryan,
I'd love to know more about this- do you know the reference?
There are a couple of Koi and Iridescent shark breeders/producers on the island, so the basic materials and know-how are available.
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I know the reference/source very well...I worked with them this past year as an intern/grant worker. I did not do clown loaches in specific, but we did work on various other species (green spotted puffers, fire eels, RTC, and a few others). The process is very straight forward with pretty much any fish. Getting fertile eggs is the relatively easy part. Much like breeding any fish, raising the fry to sellable size is the challenge. Unfortunetly UF has not (and most likely will not) publish the protocol. The farm, UF Tropical Aquaculture Lab, exists to serve the FL fish farmers. The farmers tell UF what fish they want to figure out how to spawn and they do it. That info is passed on to the local farmers so they can start breeding and have the ability to compete with imports (wild and asian). Granted I am making it sound easier than it really is...
Here is their website, which by the way is an extremely good reference site for pretty much all things aquaculture (look in "publications" section).
http://tal.ifas.ufl.edu/index.htm

-Ryan

Brilliant!
One of my academic advisors is at U-Miami, so I may see what madness may be uncovered. I'll also check with the local university (UWI) and Min. of Agriculture.
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Patents for the process for commercially breeding Clowns were applied for on 2-4-2008 by a joint venture between BRKP & Institut De Recherch.
BRKP is the Indonesian Ministry of Marine Affairs and Institut De Recherch is a French Company that specializes in aquatic research.
It took them 2 years to do the research and prove their process before applying for Patents. The Researchers were M.Legendre - L.Poudard - S.Darti - S.Ketut and Jacques Slembrouk.
I went to Aquarama in Singapore in June this year were they were trying to sell this process to the Fish production companys there.
Here is a picture of some of the fish they had on display at Aquarama.
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Cheers Graeme.[/img]

Graeme McKellar wrote:Patents for the process for commercially breeding Clowns were applied for on 2-4-2008 by a joint venture between BRKP & Institut De Recherch.
BRKP is the Indonesian Ministry of Marine Affairs and Institut De Recherch is a French Company that specializes in aquatic research.
It took them 2 years to do the research and prove their process before applying for Patents. The Researchers were M.Legendre - L.Poudard - S.Darti - S.Ketut and Jacques Slembrouk.
I went to Aquarama in Singapore in June this year were they were trying to sell this process to the Fish production companys there.
Here is a picture of some of the fish they had on display at Aquarama.
[img][img]http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa14 ... C_2040.jpg[/img]'
Cheers Graeme.[/img]

Not sure if international patents would apply, but UF started breeding the clown loach 5+ years ago....

-Ryan