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Heads Up *new pics added 21-08-10*
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:07 pm
by Emma Turner
Hi all,
Just a quick heads up to let you know
Vaillantella maassi (Forktail Loach) are again currently appearing in the trade in quantity:
These fish come from an international shipper, so they could turn up anywhere! If they are on your wish list, be on the look out or ask your LFS if they could check their suppliers lists to see if they are on there.
As you can see, in the batch above, there are some other
Vaillantella species mixed in too.
It is currently a new season for many of the botiids, with small (less than 3 or 4 cm) fish appearing. These include
B. rostrata,
B. almorhae,
B. histrionica, and
B. kubotai amongst others. Also available at the moment are tiny (<1.5cm) Borneo Suckers (
Gastromyzon sp.) which will need the best care if they are to do well.
Also, here are some new loaches, both from a previously unexplored location in central Borneo. Apologies for pic quality, will try and get some more shots in the photo tank soon:
"Python Loach"
"Gold Dust Horse Face Loach" (being marketed as a
Kottelatlimia sp.)
The latter are capable of incredible colour change depending on substrate, and spend quite a bit of time buried in the sand.
Emma
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:53 pm
by piggy4
Hi Emma , Id say there are V. euepiptera in the bag too ! the fish right in the middle with the line through its eye , and broken marks along its back
That so called Python loach looks very similar to a loach that used to be quite common in the hobby , it used to come in as either N.kuiperi or N. fasciatus , the top lobe of the caudal was longer than the bottom lobe similar to that in N . maysae ! possibly a male trait ? they also develope a little black line under the eye , very nice fish !
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:22 pm
by Jim Powers
WOW!!
I would love to find Vaillantella maassi again.
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 6:41 pm
by NancyD
Thanks Emma, I'll keep my eyes open. I have 3 v. maassi, 2 females & 1 male but they're rarely out since moving them to a larger tank. I can't figure it out. Some of those others look interesting too, great pics.
Re: Heads Up
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 7:07 pm
by Mad Duff
I will be sure to be on the look out for some
Vaillantella maassi.
Emma Turner wrote:
It is currently a new season for many of the botiids, with small (less than 3 or 4 cm) fish appearing. These include B. rostrata, B. almorhae, B. histrionica, and B. kubotai amongst others.
Would you by any chance have any pics of those small histies
Are they wild caught or farm bred
It would be nice to compare their markings to my tank bred fish
Re: Heads Up
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 8:08 pm
by Emma Turner
Mad Duff wrote:
Emma Turner wrote:It is currently a new season for many of the botiids, with small (less than 3 or 4 cm) fish appearing. These include B. rostrata, B. almorhae, B. histrionica, and B. kubotai amongst others.
Would you by any chance have any pics of those small histies
Are they wild caught or farm bred
It would be nice to compare their markings to my tank bred fish
No photos, as we have plenty of the above in stock at the moment and therefore do not need to order them at present. This thread was just a heads up that it is a new season for many of the botiids, and lots of small specimens are currently available from numerous suppliers (as is usual for this time of the year).
Emma
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:59 am
by Kush
That first bag of fish, NICE! Hope Graeme has a bib handy.
Jim and Nancy, my fingers are crossed too.
Emma, thanks for the loach envy.
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:52 am
by Matt
That last fish is Kottelatlimia hipporhynchos I think. Nice!
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 3:42 pm
by Graeme Robson
Hey Kush, nice to see you!
I have with me 20 of the Vaillantella sp's acclimatizing as I speak! woOt!
Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 5:17 pm
by Kush
Hey Kush, nice to see you!
You as well.
How is or did the acclimation go(ing)? 20,WOW! Guaranteed to see 1 or 2 in the tank now.
Still have any of your orginal's around?
Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 3:12 pm
by Graeme Robson
Hi Todd, the new ones are settling in well thanks, no loss's so far and all seem active and healthy. None of my old ones left I'm afraid but the collection is being re-built.
Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 3:42 pm
by Emma Turner
Here's some clearer pics of the 'contaminant'
Vaillantella species that came in with the
V. maassi:
We think these look slightly different to
V. cinnamomea, does anyone think these could be
V. euepiptera?
Emma
Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 3:51 pm
by piggy4
piggy4 wrote:Hi Emma , Id say there are V. euepiptera in the bag too ! the fish right in the middle with the line through its eye , and broken marks along its back
"
That so called Python loach looks very similar to a loach that used to be quite common in the hobby , it used to come in as either N.kuiperi or N. fasciatus , the top lobe of the caudal was longer than the bottom lobe similar to that in N . maysae ! possibly a male trait ? they also develope a little black line under the eye , very nice fish !
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 5:19 pm
by Graeme Robson
Superb pictures!
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:24 am
by Kush
Great pic's, indeed! Those close-up's are killer!
Reference for anyone interested:
V. euepiptera pdf:
http://rmbr.nus.edu.sg/rbz/biblio/41/41rbz113-118.pdf
V. cinnamomea pdf:
http://www.wdc-jp.biz/pdf_store/isj/pub ... /40404.pdf
Figure 5-a in the euepiptera pdf has me thinking they're V. euepiptera.
Are they shorter than the maassi? They seem like it. Maybe a pic with these and a maassi together? <--hint,hint
Video would work too.
Graeme, I'm looking forward to pics from you soon!