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ICH treatments!!

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 8:31 am
by Hell Fire
I found my loach to have ICh the other week and have been using Interpet anti whitespot treatment BUt its not seemed to help at all. Ive heard that waterlife was much better. It says wait 48hrs before changing the medication over. I last dosed at 1.00 yesterday, if i do a 50% water chnage do you think i could dose today? Im getting so worried!!

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 8:32 am
by shari2
Here is information about ick:

http://forums.loaches.com/viewtopic.php?t=2599
hth

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 9:15 am
by Hell Fire
Thanks for that but i already read it the other day and couldnt find out about changing from one med to another in there.
Think it would be best to wait 48hrs as it says on the bottle. Lucky their still in the quarentine tank!!!! Ive done all it said in that ICk part about 4 days ago and its still not going. Really think the med im using isnt that good espesialy at half dose. The new stuff ive got has got a lot of good feedabck so fingers crossed.

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 9:20 am
by shari2
There are a TON of threads on ick if you want to get some personal descriptions of how others here treated theirs. There was a thread on 'resistant ick' a while back...

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 9:26 am
by Hell Fire
Thanks, Ill have a good look in the forum. Just dont want to OD them!! lol

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 10:13 am
by Mad Duff
If its Protozin that your using I would do the water change today and then leave it until tomorrow morning and do a half dose followed by another half dose 12 hours later :)

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 10:15 am
by crazie.eddie
I wouldn't trust that thread, since it states....
7. Some sources have said that temperatures above 86 degrees Fahrenheit alone will kill off the parasite.. Actually, most sources I've seen say temp above 88F or 89F, see for example:
http://www.caloriesperhour.com/fish/notes_ich.html#temp
These two degrees make a difference, since at 86F not only one would not kill the parasite, one will make it reproduce faster. Maybe it is best to say that temp only cure is often just not a good idea.
Which is incorrect statement. I've already mentioned, but nobody has corrected it. In fact, I originally replied to that topic, which was erased, then locked. So apparantely, out of millions of threads on ich on this and several forums regarding high temp only speeds up the life cycle of ich, the above thread states that high temp kills ich.
Hell Fire wrote:Thanks for that but i already read it the other day and couldnt find out about changing from one med to another in there.
Think it would be best to wait 48hrs as it says on the bottle. Lucky their still in the quarentine tank!!!! Ive done all it said in that ICk part about 4 days ago and its still not going. Really think the med im using isnt that good espesialy at half dose. The new stuff ive got has got a lot of good feedabck so fingers crossed.
IMO, using meds may stress and weaken the fish even more. Raising the temps and adding aquarium salt is safe for the fish and would aid in the healing process. As I mentioned, raising the temp speeds up the life cycle of ich. Salt can be used becuase ich cannot adjust to the change in salinity in the water, fish can.

As mentioned, there are several forums on treating ich (with or without salt use) here.

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 4:02 pm
by Hell Fire
Ive always been very dubiouse of using salt. And temp alone i know doesnt kill ICh just speeds up the cycle. I have my temp currently at 82/83 max and dot really want to push it much more.
I will be re-dosing them in the moring with the new stuff at half dose. 1drop per 2 gal instead of per 1gal. As i said this stuff is much better.
My LFS told me not to use salt when i asked and gave me the meds, he knows a lot up there and has helped a lot in the past. If this dont work then maybe salt is the only ansew. Can i add salt and med?