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Help identifying this one

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 8:07 pm
by jfranca
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Hi, all

This one was being sold as botia sidthimunki, but I'm pretty sure it's not.

Right now, I'm between Botia almorhae, Botia histrionica or Botia rostrata.

Any guesses?

Mine goes to Botia histrionica.

BTW... yes, that is ich. So far I've managed to kill 3 like this one trying to get rid of ich, without luck with the ich itself.

Best,
Jorge

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 8:10 pm
by mikev
More likely, young B.Kubotai. There is a forming horizontal connection between vertical stripes.

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 8:18 pm
by Graeme Robson
Hi Jorge. Welcome to Loaches Online. :D

Most certainly looks like a juvenile Botia Kubotai. Here's a Profile link> http://forums.loaches.com/viewtopic.php?t=2729

Which type of treatment are you using for Ich?

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 2:45 pm
by jfranca
Graeme,

I'm using JBL Punktol. I saw her this morning (she only comes out at night and in the morning) and she still has it. The last time I used the medicine was 2 days ago.

Regarding the identification, I suppose you experts know best, but I still think she resembles more these guys than the one you mentioned. Is the horizontal connection that important?

I suppose the difficulty arises from her being still a juvenile. If she survives these hard times, it should be more easy to identify.

I don't know if it helps, but I'm posting a picture of one of the others who died in the mean time. It's supposed to be the same kind. Or not...

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Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:21 pm
by Graeme Robson
Good luck with the treatment, Jorge. They do look in bad shape with their fins clamped. :? Have you tried raising the temperature, to speed up the Ich life cycle?

Juvenile Botia kubotai are at times difficult to identify but i'm pretty sure on this one. We are busy in the process of finding Robin's images where it shows us the growth in stages of a Botia kubotai. A while back, this had us all debating long into the night on which species it was.

Perhaps Martin/Jim/Emma/Shari have these images at hand?

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:26 pm
by shari2
Ok. Here they are. I changed the url's on all of them to see if it would access them and voila!

Loach #1 on January 3, 2004
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Loach #1 taken on January 27, 2004
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Loach #1 taken on February 20, 2004
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Loach #1 taken on March 2, 2004
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Loach #1 taken March 22, 2004
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Loach # 2 taken on March 2, 2004
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Loach #2 taken March 22, 2004
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Loach #1 right and #2 on left taken on September 25, 2004
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Here they are today, December 12, 2004 Loach #1 right and #2 on left.
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Link to the archived discussion thread:

Evolution of baby kubotai markings

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:38 pm
by Graeme Robson
Much appreciated Shari. :D

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:55 pm
by Emma Turner
Excellent, Shari. Thank you for taking the time to find them and edit all the url's. :D I take it these are going to be included on the new species index? I suppose they could either go in the B. kubotai profile, or else a separate thread entirely, such as Martin's created for the tiger loaches and red lizard loaches.

Emma

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 4:02 pm
by jfranca
Graeme Robson wrote:Good luck with the treatment, Jorge. They do look in bad shape with their fins clamped. :? Have you tried raising the temperature, to speed up the Ich life cycle?
Graeme,

Yes I did, and it worked this time. No more ich and thanks to Shari's images I'm am now the proud and no longer sceptic owner of a happy juvenile Botia kubotai.

Jorge

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 4:11 pm
by Graeme Robson
Superb! :D

Is it possible you could add some more Botia kubotai?

Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:13 am
by shari2
Just to be honest--those aren't my pics. They were taken by Cybermeeze :lol: I just found them in the archives...