Stiphodon genus of the Goby

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Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Post by odyssey » Sat Mar 19, 2011 12:10 pm

Hi all!
Thank you for being anxious about me.
And I'm thankful for aid to Japan from many countries.
The electric power shortage is inconvenient, but I'm OK.

Hi wheezo!
The sale name as Stiphodon.sp "Gold Spot" is sometimes used.
A sale name of fish is unreliable as plaalye says.
The sale name is used to both of them of the "Rainbow-color"and"Orange-fin(Spotted Head)" introduced in this thread.
Pictures of Stiphodon with the sale name as "Gold spot" are indicated below.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/youngrichkd/5284533065/
http://www.seriouslyfish.com/forums/lof ... t2767.html
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/fwsubwebinde ... arch84.htm


I took a video of matching breeding behavior of Stiphodon percnopterygionus recently.
The video clip is uploaded to Youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMVhn8d2AeM

A male makes the color of the body flashy and is inviting a female.
It's possible to see a male sometimes making a jaw vibrate.
A male probably seems to be issuing sound in the water.
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Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Post by Glenny » Sun Mar 20, 2011 2:11 pm

Odyssey, i'm very glad that nothing happend to you, and we all hope that your country will recover very soon, good luck...

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Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Post by odyssey » Wed Mar 23, 2011 11:38 am

Hi Glenny.
Thanks!

Two males of Stiphodon are quarreling.
Two body colors turn red.
A male of a short dorsal fin is the male introduced at the top.
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Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Post by Akwarybka » Wed Apr 27, 2011 12:45 pm

Hello everyone!
What an interesting thread! Your fish are stunning! :D
A few months ago I bought 3 Stiphodon sp. ''Rainbow'' to my 180l planted aquarium and I'm so amazed with their beauty and behaviour, I want to turn my tank into Stiphodon and Rhinogobius' kingdom :lol:

Oddesey, do you keep more than one species of Stiphodon in one tank? What is the ratio of males - females? How often do you do the water change?
And finally, does enyone keep Stiphodons with Rhionogobiuses?

Regards :)
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Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Post by tyrano34 » Wed Apr 27, 2011 12:58 pm

Hello everyone.
I saw that my rhinogobius attacked my Stiphodon and sicyopterus .
I decided to remove rhinogobius of the tank and put it in another tank.

I found a picture that shows that rhinogobius are predator of stiphodon.
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Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Post by Akwarybka » Wed Apr 27, 2011 1:14 pm

Thanks for the information Tyrano34 :)

In this case I'll not add Rhinogobius. Do know what fish can live with Stiphodons in peace?

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Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Post by tyrano34 » Wed Apr 27, 2011 1:42 pm

first possibility

You just recreate a biotope ( documenting fishbase and avoiding predators).

or request information on endemic fish that live with Stiphodon, the best would be asked odyssey or taragoby .


second possibility

you create an aquarium with plenty of shelter and a lot of plants.
If you put a lot of good hiding place and you can put as many fish completely different odyssey.

Namely, to put the goldfish odyssey to improve production of algae.
odyssey has also loaches not too aggressive.

Attention most of the loaches likes to have a territory and live in groups.

We also put some shrimp but the shrimp eat the algae.

I maintain that fish to be sure my fish have a maximum of foods.

That way no concurence food with shrimp.
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Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Post by Akwarybka » Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:04 pm

Thanks for the fast reply Tyrano34 :)

It's very hard question... I was thinking about recreating the biotop, but also I want to add as much hiding places as possible.
I don't want to put goldfish in the tank as I found them very messy. But if I'll struglle with growing algae, I'll use gold fish's ''special abilities'' :wink:

What about having algae growing in glass jars? I'm growing Vanda orchids in glass vases, I always keep 2-3cm of water at the bottom of the vases. I've noticed that algae grow there very well (sometimes to well)...

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Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Post by tyrano34 » Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:34 pm

I found a idea to make the brown algae.
I put a nest on the odds of the aquarium or I have less light.
I put cotton (ouate jbl) wool on the inside and above an filter aquaball that recreates a rejection (water fall).

the idea and recreates a water fall or brown algae reproduce.
So occasionally I see them coming on the net to feed on algae.

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Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Post by Akwarybka » Wed Apr 27, 2011 3:23 pm

Thanks Tyrano34 ;)

That's good idea for growing brown algae. I'll have to try it, when I setup my tank :)

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Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Post by odyssey » Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:47 pm

Akwarybka wrote:do you keep more than one species of Stiphodon in one tank? What is the ratio of males - females? How often do you do the water change?
And finally, does enyone keep Stiphodons with Rhionogobiuses?
Hi!
The male female ratios of sold Stiphodon are different by a species.
But only my feeling, the impression is as follows.
S.percnopterygionus is 1:1
S.atropurpureus is 1:1
Blue-moon is 1:1
Rainbow-color is 20:1
Orange-fin is 20:1
I do not know why there is a difference in the number of males and females.

The frequency of the water change for twice a month.
I change a one-third of the gross quantity every time.
The quantity is approximately 20 liters.

For my impression, most Rhinogobius is violent-tempered.

Stiphodon is a part of the a variety of fish species in my water tank.
Picts of the fish which can coexist with Stiphodon peacefully
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Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Post by tyrano34 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 1:38 pm

:shock: :P I pull the tongue when I see your loaches.

If only one in France could have species Loaches. :cry:
beautiful my friend, tell me you could get out a list of endemic fish that you saw live with Stiphodon. :wink:
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Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Post by Akwarybka » Thu Apr 28, 2011 2:52 pm

odyssey wrote:
Akwarybka wrote:do you keep more than one species of Stiphodon in one tank? What is the ratio of males - females? How often do you do the water change?
And finally, does enyone keep Stiphodons with Rhionogobiuses?
Hi!
The male female ratios of sold Stiphodon are different by a species.
But only my feeling, the impression is as follows.
S.percnopterygionus is 1:1
S.atropurpureus is 1:1
Blue-moon is 1:1
Rainbow-color is 20:1
Orange-fin is 20:1
I do not know why there is a difference in the number of males and females.
Thanks for the info Oddesey!
20:1??? That must an awful lot of females for just one male! The problem is, I think that all three of mine Stiphodons ''Rainbow-color'' are males...

I agree with Tyrano34 :) Can you tell us which other species have you seen living close to Stiphodons in their natural habitat? :)

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Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Post by tyrano34 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 3:02 pm

Akwarybka wrote:
Thanks for the info Oddesey!
20:1??? That must an awful lot of females for just one male! The problem is, I think that all three of mine Stiphodons ''Rainbow-color'' are males...
normal that you can not find a female.

I think I understand why;

The wholesaler purchases all the time even goby.

they buy the red goby thinking he'll have males and females in the command.


Wholesalers do not buy the black gobi.
While the goby with black stripes and a female of the same species as the male.


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Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Post by Akwarybka » Thu Apr 28, 2011 3:36 pm

Yeah that's quite stupid... So the sellers think, that red ones are males and females and the black-striped ones are different species... :?
I'll have t ask my local aquatic store about the ''striped species of Stiphodon'' :lol:

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