What they call Borneo Scooters here in Perth...
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I've had a pretty close look, and most of mine are almost certainly scitulus. However there is at least one which is shyer and darker and hangs out mostly at the back where I can't get a pic of him. He has very faint spots, hardly any colour in the dorsal fin and the caudal fin looks very much like stellatus.Jim Powers wrote:Check the tails and refer to the pics in the profile comparing scitus and ctenocephalus and see what you think. That's usually the best way to determine what species you have. Is it possible you have both species?
I was over at my mate Joe's place this morning, he has three of these he picked up from Veba's two weeks ago (there were about 15 available at the time). One of them was exactly like my dark one, the other two appear to be scitulus as well.
So while I haven't seen all seven of mine at one time and don't expect to any time soon, I can say I have at least two species, 90% sure one is scitulus and 70% sure the other is stellatus.
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7ft planted tank, ~250 fish/500l barrel, ~160 fish
Nikon D300 with DX VR 105mm Macro lens, off-camera SB-800 and SB-600 flashes
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http://www.arach.net.au/~path/broadcast.html
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Just went to Vebas. They had a single Gastromyzon (not sure which) in the peppermint bristelnose tank, about 6 more in the tank opposite that one but they were all on hold (white spot in tank), and another dozen or so out back. I went there with Joe who has two scitulus and a probable stellatus, he got two zebra-ish looking gatromyzons and two spotty ones (either scitulus or similar), I got three spottys and one zebra-like one.bob d wrote:I haven't been to Wembley Path, but Vebas, Aquotix and another City Farmers (Willetton) were all no goes. Curses!
Hopefully pics of the stripey one later, meanwhile one of the new spotties was peeking over a leaf just after I put him in. From here on I'll only ever see him on the glass.
We spoke to George BTW he's the only one that seems to know about the scooters.


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7ft planted tank, ~250 fish/500l barrel, ~160 fish
Nikon D300 with DX VR 105mm Macro lens, off-camera SB-800 and SB-600 flashes
Tankcam:
http://www.arach.net.au/~path/broadcast.html
7ft planted tank, ~250 fish/500l barrel, ~160 fish
Nikon D300 with DX VR 105mm Macro lens, off-camera SB-800 and SB-600 flashes
Tankcam:
http://www.arach.net.au/~path/broadcast.html
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Zebrinus
Turns out at least one of the guys hanging out on the back pane that I thought was a stellatus is Gastromyzon zebrinus. Also one of the new guys I got yesterday loks like zebrinus too. You can see why they like the back glass: It's dark (95% tint), and I never clean off the algae. Evidence of good eating trailing from the second guy, and he's been in the tank for about 18 hours.
Can't get a decent shot of them back there unfortunately...


Can't get a decent shot of them back there unfortunately...


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7ft planted tank, ~250 fish/500l barrel, ~160 fish
Nikon D300 with DX VR 105mm Macro lens, off-camera SB-800 and SB-600 flashes
Tankcam:
http://www.arach.net.au/~path/broadcast.html
7ft planted tank, ~250 fish/500l barrel, ~160 fish
Nikon D300 with DX VR 105mm Macro lens, off-camera SB-800 and SB-600 flashes
Tankcam:
http://www.arach.net.au/~path/broadcast.html
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scitulus
Why I think this guy is Gastromyzon scitulus
He finally jumped off the front glass and posed on a leaf perfectly (except for the disinclination to spread the fins).
1. There are three large spots, evenly spaced in a line directly behind the dorsal.
2. There are distinctive yellow-orange patches on the dorsal
3. Overall spotting is larger


Hi-res of the second pic:
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z17/ ... 877CLA.jpg
Still waiting for zebrinus to do the same...
He finally jumped off the front glass and posed on a leaf perfectly (except for the disinclination to spread the fins).
1. There are three large spots, evenly spaced in a line directly behind the dorsal.
2. There are distinctive yellow-orange patches on the dorsal
3. Overall spotting is larger


Hi-res of the second pic:
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z17/ ... 877CLA.jpg
Still waiting for zebrinus to do the same...
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7ft planted tank, ~250 fish/500l barrel, ~160 fish
Nikon D300 with DX VR 105mm Macro lens, off-camera SB-800 and SB-600 flashes
Tankcam:
http://www.arach.net.au/~path/broadcast.html
7ft planted tank, ~250 fish/500l barrel, ~160 fish
Nikon D300 with DX VR 105mm Macro lens, off-camera SB-800 and SB-600 flashes
Tankcam:
http://www.arach.net.au/~path/broadcast.html
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Spread fins
scitulus again (probably) this one was happy to sit with fins spread.

Hi-res:
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z17/ ... 925CLA.jpg

Hi-res:
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z17/ ... 925CLA.jpg
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7ft planted tank, ~250 fish/500l barrel, ~160 fish
Nikon D300 with DX VR 105mm Macro lens, off-camera SB-800 and SB-600 flashes
Tankcam:
http://www.arach.net.au/~path/broadcast.html
7ft planted tank, ~250 fish/500l barrel, ~160 fish
Nikon D300 with DX VR 105mm Macro lens, off-camera SB-800 and SB-600 flashes
Tankcam:
http://www.arach.net.au/~path/broadcast.html
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Gastromyzon stew
mmmm these guys are tough. Here's one where they allowed a comparison:Jim Powers wrote:Nice scitulus pics!!
Now we want to see the zebrinus.

hi-res:
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z17/ ... 310CLA.jpg
And some (probably) zebrinus pics. NB there are two stripey specimens represented here.




hi-res:
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z17/ ... 327CLA.jpg
Underside comparison shots - first is scitulus, the rest 'stripey'

hi-res:
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z17/ ... 328CLA.jpg

hi-res:
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z17/ ... 338CLA.jpg

hi-res:
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z17/ ... 331CLA.jpg

hi-res:
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z17/ ... 294CLA.jpg

hi-res:
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z17/ ... 276CLA.jpg
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7ft planted tank, ~250 fish/500l barrel, ~160 fish
Nikon D300 with DX VR 105mm Macro lens, off-camera SB-800 and SB-600 flashes
Tankcam:
http://www.arach.net.au/~path/broadcast.html
7ft planted tank, ~250 fish/500l barrel, ~160 fish
Nikon D300 with DX VR 105mm Macro lens, off-camera SB-800 and SB-600 flashes
Tankcam:
http://www.arach.net.au/~path/broadcast.html
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