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Help identifying a very big gold loach

Post by Gryphoemia » Fri Jan 13, 2006 9:29 pm

I was at a fish store today browsing for potential tankmates for my oscar, when I saw a large fish that I'm almost certain was a loach- it had that distinctive loach shape and face, and was busily cleaning a peice of driftwood. It was around 4"-6" long, and pretty thick. It had a very warm golden color and kind of a mottled or leopard-like pattern, but no stripes. Any idea what this was?

The tank had a sign that said dojo loach, but it was nowhere near snakey enough for that.

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Post by Gryphoemia » Sat Jan 14, 2006 4:23 am

I thought yoyos wre more silvery than that. Do they range in color that much? And get that big?

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Post by shari » Sat Jan 14, 2006 8:12 am

By 'cleaning' do you mean like an algae eater or catfish might? Or just brushing it with barbels? Did it have any protrusions on the face?

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Post by Gryphoemia » Sat Jan 14, 2006 12:50 pm

It had a little cluster of very short barbels.
It wasn't sticking to any one spot fo very long, just sort of buzzing quickly around the wood, nipping at spots here and there. Kind of a frantic, sniffling motion. Didn't look like a catfish or algea eater behaviour.

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Post by Jim Powers » Sat Jan 14, 2006 12:57 pm

Have you checked out the species index on this site.?

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Post by Gryphoemia » Sat Jan 14, 2006 1:07 pm

I have looked through the species index, but there's no way to search it by characteristic, and too many entries to jut read them all.
I flipped through some of the common species I've heard of, but found no mention of a gold mottled loach that gets bigger than 4".

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Post by Emma Turner » Sat Jan 14, 2006 2:28 pm

Did it look anything like this :?:
http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/species ... =aymonieri
Just wondering as there are gold variants of this species out there, and they are quite commonly sold as 'sucking loaches' or 'algae loaches' even though they are not a true loach.

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Post by Gryphoemia » Sat Jan 14, 2006 3:06 pm

No, it didn't look like chinese algea eater- it wasn't elongated enough, and lacked the stripe.
It was proportioned more like a skunk or clown loach, just bigger.

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Post by sophie » Sat Jan 14, 2006 3:42 pm

Gryphoemia wrote:No, it didn't look like chinese algea eater- it wasn't elongated enough, and lacked the stripe.
It was proportioned more like a skunk or clown loach, just bigger.
clowns get huuuuge!

there is/was a thread on here which mentioned that b. rostrata lose the stripes and get very "blotchy" as they get older - the page for them on the species index is here: http://www.loaches.com/species_pages/bo ... trata.html

most if not all of the photos are of young loaches; but if you imagine a bigger, solider, blotchy-instead-of-striped version (c'mon, work with me!) would that be a possibility?
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Post by Martin Thoene » Sat Jan 14, 2006 5:42 pm

How about?

http://www.loaches.com/species_pages/bo ... serim.html

You have to remember that Botia almorhae can get to 6" or so, but they're not really golden based in colouration.

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Post by Gryphoemia » Sat Jan 14, 2006 9:37 pm

Hmm. I suppose it could be an older rostrata or tenasserim- they look about the right color and shape, I could see it if they lost the clear stripes as they age.

Either way, he's a pretty cool little fish- I put him on hold and I think I'll go back to pick him up tomorrow. He seemed pretty active and brave, despite being the only loach in the tank, so hopefully he'll work out with my new [messy!] baby oscar.

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Post by Gryphoemia » Sun Jan 15, 2006 7:07 pm

Got him home today and tried to get a picture or two. This is the best I could do without torturing him too much- my digital camera leaves much to be desired.
Now that I've gotten a better look at him (holding still), I think he's a little more elongated than I described him, and also a bit smaller- just over 4" from nose to base of tail. Certainly not silvery.
He seems pretty active, but I did notice that one of his eyes looks a little strange- in the middle of the pupil there's a spot of goldish color like the outside rim of the eye. Odd- it doesn't look milk-cloudy like sick fish eyes I've seen before.

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Post by Jim Powers » Sun Jan 15, 2006 7:44 pm

Looks like botia almorhae to me.

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Nice Gryph!

Post by shari » Sun Jan 15, 2006 7:45 pm

Definitely a yo yo. Most likely a mature or almost mature one by the reticulated pattern. My female yo yo was much more of a golden base than the younger males which were decidedly silver.

and yes, botia=loach :wink: at least in your case.

Family=Cobitidae

Genus=Botia

Species=formerly lohachata, now almorhae

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