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Pangio species

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Hi guys,

I got 5 of these little guys at the weekend and I was wondering if they are Black Kuhli (Pangio javanicus) or if they are Cinnamon Kuhli (Pangio oblonga / pangia). Between the 5 of them there are a couple that are slightly lighter in colour than the others but other than that they are identical.

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as I understand it (and if you look at my sig, that's a big disclaimer!) p. javanicus and p. oblonga are synonymous, with p. javanicus being the older. outdated name.

p. pangia is a different species, with smaller, slightly gold-ringer eyes and a shorter slightly stubbier body-shape.

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I've got one p. pangia, and several p. oblonga. I think.

bloody kuhlis. far too many of 'em.
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Post by gulogulo »

Wendie, you are correct. As I recently learned P. javanicus has been reclassified as P. oblonga. P. pangia is indeed a different species.
There are definitely a lot of Pangios but I don't think there could ever be too many. :lol:
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These are nice loaches that grow by getting longer and longer, and not thick like P. myersi. Snakey little fellows. P. oblonga is the name I would use.
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Cheers guys P. oblonga they are then :) .

I am hoping to get hold of a trio of P. myersi in the next couple of weeks.

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gulogulo wrote:Wendie, you are correct.
why, thank you.

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LOL that's what happens when I mainly post about kuhlis!!
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My sincerest apologies, Sophie, I glanced at the avatar and thought it was Wendie's. I'll be more observant next time.
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gulogulo wrote:My sincerest apologies, Sophie, I glanced at the avatar and thought it was Wendie's. I'll be more observant next time.
I don't mind being mistaken for Wendie, no need to apologise. My kuhli is just a headshot rather than a feeding frenzy!
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