*new species?* Laos Yellow Tiger Botia * NEW PICS 18th Sept*

Tinman · Post by **Tinman** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:38 pm

I would set up a 400 Gallon and drop 20 of those in it in a heartbeat.

Graeme Robson · Post by **Graeme Robson** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:58 pm

Size wise is really a big issue at the moment. I've just intercepted 6 of these little chaps kindly from Andy and these are really small specimens to judge. I would be looking at least 3 months from now on to see any real changes in appearance, then on we will see or comment.

Barracuda518 · Post by **Barracuda518** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:53 am

Yeah, they look really nice. I cant wait to see them after they have grown up some more.

piggy4 · Post by **piggy4** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:00 pm

If these do turn out to be Beauforti then colour wise they are radically different to the spotted version we are familiar with ! they do seem different to the known forms of Helodes BUT, it is very early yet .
one thing that strikes me when i look at these is that they have that metalic sort of colouration that is encountered in S.Berdmorei ! ah the joy of suspence , BUT i dont think Berdmorei are known from that far south ! if the truth be known there are probarbly a few Syncrossus fishes yet to be discovered .

Martin Thoene · Post by **Martin Thoene** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:09 pm

Except somebody did

Martin.

piggy4 · Post by **piggy4** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:09 am

Except somebody did what ? discover the ones we are familiar with ? or the ones we have still yet to discover ? ha ha ha , because at the moment aren't we still trying to discover whether these new ones ,are a new discovery, or not ? so i guess that could be, did they, or didnt they ?

Martin Thoene · Post by **Martin Thoene** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:42 am

Possibly maybe

Martin.

piggy4 · Post by **piggy4** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 7:25 am

What if, after all this debate ,they turned out to be hybrids ? what a horrible thought !

Emma Turner · Post by **Emma Turner** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:38 am

Then at least they would be natural hybrids. But I think this is a totally new species. Care to place your bets anyone?

Emma

Kamapa · Post by **Kamapa** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:25 pm

Went for a stroll today around the local fish shops, one of them has these in stock currently, was a nice little surprise. There was the odd ailing fish amongst them but i've seen worse. I think they had them up as 'Yellow tiger botia' or something like that.

Graeme Robson · Post by **Graeme Robson** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 7:15 am

http://www.loaches.com/species-index/ph ... 1.jpg/view

I know it may not be but...........something seems similar.

Emma Turner · Post by **Emma Turner** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 9:41 am

Yeah that pic of a juvenile Y. lecontei looks the same as the scanned image from Kottelat's fishes of Laos. The bars are similar, but that's where the similarities seem to end.

Emma

Graeme Robson · Post by **Graeme Robson** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:31 am

Thats my implication. The markings are similar and that would give us more to wonder on when maturity arises.

piggy4 · Post by **piggy4** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 11:43 am

Is it me , or are these looking a little more Hymenophysa , than Helodes ? geographically speaking this would be unlikely, but you never know , i think there was supposed to be a population of Hymenophysa in Malaysia ?perhaps the Darkone could verify this ? I appreciate Malaysia is a lot further south than Laos ! i'm just curious , and ,i guess ,clutching at straws .

Emma Turner · Post by **Emma Turner** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 8:38 pm

I took a few new pictures of these beauties in my photo tank this evening. Most are starting to get little bellies on them, and they've already had one round of Levamisole.

These two fish in particular are probably the largest of the bunch (but still teeny weeny) and I noticed that the v-shaped bars which were in between the full length bars are now lengthening and are becoming less v-shaped.

And two more, showing these Tigers doing what Tigers do.......

Emma

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