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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:16 am
by odyssey
tyrano34, nice to meet you.
I am sorry that an answer is late.
tyrano34 wrote: I think after ordering Stiphodon aristocratama home with the help of a professional friend, the names are brand names you know the scientific names the stiphodons?

THERE would not be better to make an aquarium Stiphodon for each habitat?
The color of the body of male metallic blue is a color at the time of the sexual excitement.
It is thought that the normal is not likely this color of the body like much other Stiphodon.

I cannot distinguish S.atropurpureus from S.semoni.
I think that it is difficult to distinguish a Stiphodon close species only with a picture.
I cannot distinguish correct scientific names just to have looked.

30 kinds are mentioned in the Stiphodon genus at present.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stiphodon
I think that these identification is based on detailed observation of the appearance, habitat information .
It is difficult to observe it in chase of a specific individual for a long term.
As you know, the color of the body of gobies changes intensely.
I think that the identification based on a color and the design of the body is uncertain.
As for their distribution, the limitation by the habitat is difficult, besides, because they are spread by an ocean current.
http://forums.loaches.com/viewtopic.php ... ht=odyssey

The classification of Stiphodon will be reviewed like other many creature classifications by DNA analysis, too.
http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/news/lib/195

It is only the sale name of the group of a similar characteristic of Stiphodon sold in Japan that I can show.

I'm sorry I do not understand a meaning of "THERE".
I think the most important point for the breeding of Stiphodn to be abundant algae.




ps. Will not the enormous unrelated collection of links such as "rolexwatch" be deleted?

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:30 pm
by tyrano34
excuse me for my English, French and very difficult to translate.

I want to know if I should create a different habitat for each Stiphodon?

the Stiphodon can hybridize with other species stiphodons?

you get a video or information about the location of fishing Stiphodon semoni.

I know that Japan and very ahead of the fish, I saw that many species are sold in your stores while we in France we must wait 6 years to start seeing them in our stores.

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:46 am
by odyssey
Hi tyrano34!
tyrano34 wrote:I want to know if I should create a different habitat for each Stiphodon?
the Stiphodon can hybridize with other species stiphodons?
I maintain all Stiphodon and Hillstream loache in the same environment.
I do not know whether Stiphodon of the different species is crossing possibility.
The artificial breeding is difficult even if it is the same stiphodon. (amphidromous migration)
Of course I confirm it only to laying eggs, too.
I heard from the expert who challenged it, but seems not to have yet succeeded.
I have not yet heard the talk that succeeded.

Stiphodon semoni
Distribution
Asia and Oceania: Indonesia, Philippines, New Guinea and Solomon Islands . Reported from New Caledonia.
http://fishbase.se/summary/SpeciesSummary.php?id=26587

Stiphodon atropurpureus
Distribution
Asia: Japan, Taiwan, Malaysia and the Philippines
http://fishbase.se/summary/SpeciesSummary.php?id=51779

Will the DNA patterns of these two species be different as expected???

The video of the pairing action of Stiphodon sp(Raibowcolor)

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 5:27 am
by odyssey
Hi all!

I succeeded in the video shoot of the pairing action of the male and female of Stiphodon sp(Raibow-color).
As for the first twice, the female has gone out of the den immediately.
The female seems to have finally accepted male love by the third courtship.
Youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvNIYLiI244

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Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 5:51 am
by tyrano34
beautiful, pity you did not close the windows.

I have never seen behavior of courtship among Stiphodon. I wonder how long you keep this couple and what size they are?

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:38 am
by wasserscheu
Excellent video, many thanks and congratulations 8)

I remember your earlier video, where a female also was following him into the nest. I enjoy your reports very much and learn a lot, Stiphodon Information in English or German is very rare, that makes your contributions very spezial.

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 11:56 am
by odyssey
Hi tyrano34 , wasserscheu.
Thanks for comment.
tyrano34 wrote: I wonder how long you keep this couple and what size they are?
The size is 5,6cm. Probably in three or four years.

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 6:28 am
by tyrano34
Hi my friend

I wonder if the female Stiphodon semoni are such that male?

You would have a photo of a female Stiphodon semoni?

How long a life Stiphodon and how often reproduce it?

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 5:28 am
by odyssey
Hi tyrano34!

As for Stiphodon, there were several individuals which lived long more than five years in my water tank.
S.percnopterygionus seems to have done 3,4 times pairing in a year in the golden age.
But I keep Stiphodon sp (Rainbow-color) for nine years, but this year is the first time that I watched a pairing action.

The Stiphodon genus that I can declare a scientific name in sold Stiphodon is only S.percnopterygionus.
Probably S.semoni may resemble "Blue-moon" in sale name, but I cannot distinguish S.atropurpureus from S.semoni by appearance.

It is only S.percnopterygionus and "Rainbow-color" that pairing was seen with my water tank.
Therefore, it is only these two kinds to become clear whether it is male and female of the same kind surely.

I think the female of "Blue-moon" to be a fish of this picture.
From the left, a male of "Blue moon", a female of" Blue moon", a male of S.percnopterygionus .
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Female of "Blue moon", a female of "Rainbow Color", a male of "Rainbow Color" from the left.
The rim of the scale is slightly black, and the burr of the diamond is outstanding.
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However, it is sometimes sold for a male and female pair such as this picture.
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However, I think that probably it is the misconception of the aqua shop. This female accepted male courtship of "Raibow-color" last week.
I was able to shoot the video of their pairing action of this female and another "Rainbow-color" male.
Though I was not able to chase it till the last because this male den is a side of the water tank, there is not a reflection this time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYMS6zAOLjc

As for this male sexual excitement color, two white bands are discriminative.
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Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 6:00 am
by tyrano34
Thank you :wink:

I have not seen a single female on the arrival of stiphondon semoni, I wonder if the exporter does not do it intentionally.

Four Stiphodon I 4 with color ...

I wonder if it does not export as males.

male sexual excitement color

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 10:40 am
by odyssey
Hi all.
My two kinds of Stiphodon continues being in heat recently.

The pairing of the male and female of Stiphodon.percnopterygionus.
The female went into the male den after this.
There is this male den next to "rainbow color".
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A male of Stiphodon.sp (rainbow color).
This male sexual excitement color is very showy.
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A color of the body in the normal.
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When some motivations were given.
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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 7:06 pm
by tyrano34
Hi my friends

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little video and pics

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sorry for quality pics

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 8:58 am
by odyssey
Hi! tyrano34.
They are nice Stiphodon and Sicyoputerus.

As for your fish, a color of the body is whitish.
The bottom sand of your water tank is white.
Probably Stiphodon seem to make a color of the body whitish in conformity to bottom sand.

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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:09 am
by plaalye
Nice tyrano! I've just got some new stiphodon similar to yours. I'll try to ge some pics when they settle in.

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 4:51 pm
by tyrano34
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my fish

one of the two and become darker and the blue head and dorsal fins turn red-orange, it is the same as the link below Stiphodon sp this is the Stiphodon elegans?
http://www17.tok2.com/home2/tarogoby/zu ... jiiro.html

stiphodon elegans ( yes or no)
http://www.okinawa-kaeru.net/wild/nanyo ... aze-3.html

http://w3.u-ryukyu.ac.jp/coe/action/new ... wsl10.html
have see so many different pictures on the Stiphodon elegans.