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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 5:31 pm
by tender
mickthefish wrote:haha, i know for a fact these are wild-caught almorhae, they came from my mates shop bud.
mick
I certainly didn`t mean to offend or question youre opinion. I just stated what my untrained, inexperienced eyes wiewed :D

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 5:44 pm
by mickthefish
tender there was no offence taken bud, if you could see the collection of almorhae i have sometimes i've had my doubts.
but i've been assured by my mate that they are wild caught fish.
i've asked if he could find out the location where these were caught from his importer in India.

mick

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 5:55 pm
by tender
Off-topic: Eventhough he`s youre mate :D Are the fish marked VF (which is the Norwegian abbreviation for Wild caught)? I spoke to my LFS, which I have a very good dialog with, and none of theyre loaches have this marking from the distributor. Therefore they will not garantee that theyre loaches are wild-caught. Eventhough we all presume they are. I suspect that a lot of clowns, Yo-Yo`s etc. that we buy, come from breeding farms in Asia, Tsjekkia, Russia etc?

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 5:55 pm
by Emma Turner
If I remember rightly, some time back, there was some debate as to whether the unusually marked loach in that pic of JJ's could be the mysterious B. birdi. It's the same pic Fishbase uses on their main page for B. almorhae.

Emma

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 5:59 pm
by tender
Emma Turner wrote:If I remember rightly, some time back, there was some debate as to whether the unusually marked loach in that pic of JJ's could be the mysterious B. birdi. It's the same pic Fishbase uses on their main page for B. almorhae.

Emma
What are you saying Emma? Is JJ`s pic a rare photograph of a rare species, or is it simply a picture of a rare looking Yo-Yo?

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:04 pm
by Emma Turner
We never came to any conclusions. I think it could be a large adult B. almorhae with unusual markings.

Emma

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:10 pm
by tender
Wow!!! This hobby gets more and more interesting :D When fish developes markings that no one can positively identify (hybrids exepted) I get really fascinated! Probably even Darwin would be amazed :D

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:22 pm
by mickthefish
Tender, my mate go's over to see all his exporters personally, and also to look round their holding tanks, he doe'snt list them as wildcaughts on the tanks.
but he tells me and other people from LOL that they were caught in the wild, also the size of fish he gets can only be wild caughts, most are adult fish bud. :lol:

mick

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:41 pm
by tender
mickthefish wrote:Tender, my mate go's over to see all his exporters personally, and also to look round their holding tanks, he doe'snt list them as wildcaughts on the tanks.
but he tells me and other people from LOL that they were caught in the wild, also the size of fish he gets can only be wild caughts, most are adult fish bud. :lol:

mick
Hi Mick! I believe every word you say :D But when you say he sees all the tanks? Surely you mean that he (occationally) sees the fish from the moment they are caught in the river? A fish in a tank shows no proof of beeing wild caught??? (apart from Scalare... they have a major difference in behaviour when caught wild and bread in captivity)

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:48 pm
by mickthefish
yup mate he only sees what they have in at that time, but saying that i know my mate and he's told this exporter if he ever sends over any cultivars/ tank breds unless ordered he won't deal with him any more.

he's a good kick boxer. haha

mick

Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 5:44 am
by piggy4
Hi Tender , to me your fish looks most like the fish known as Rostrata sp/ on the loach I.D lists this fish used to come in mixed with B.Histrionica , for me the shortish face is the key , failing that? but i would say it was neither Histrionica , Almorhae or Rostrata , or Birdi ?