Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:43 am
I think I'll try for better pics, then get the Dark Lord out of his pit. 
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 1:32 pm
I think Graeme has the book about these fishes , cant think of its name ?
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 1:52 pm
I think you are referring to Dr. Tan's book Borneo Suckers.
I have that book too, and after looking at it, can't find anything that looks quite like this.
I have that book too, and after looking at it, can't find anything that looks quite like this.
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:35 pm
Beautiful fish!
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:59 pm
Thanks all.
This evening I put the Gastromyzon into one of my photo tanks and have taken what I hope to be some better pics, and will put them up in a little while.
Emma
This evening I put the Gastromyzon into one of my photo tanks and have taken what I hope to be some better pics, and will put them up in a little while.
Emma
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 5:43 pm
Here are the pics as promised. Excuse the bits of sand etc in some of the shots, the loach was not best pleased to find itself in my photo tank!
(I had to gently nudge with the net handle in that last one to get the loach to flare it's fins).
Emma
(I had to gently nudge with the net handle in that last one to get the loach to flare it's fins).
Emma
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:05 pm
WoW! That really is a beauty! 
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 8:11 pm
Pretty darned amazing eh?
It looks rather similar to Hendra's SK04
http://www.loaches.com/species-index/ga ... -unknown04
.....just more intense yellow.
Hendra thought SK04 might possibly be a local variety of Gastromyzon psiloetron, known from East Kalimantan. Anybody got a picture of that?
Martin.
It looks rather similar to Hendra's SK04
http://www.loaches.com/species-index/ga ... -unknown04
.....just more intense yellow.
Hendra thought SK04 might possibly be a local variety of Gastromyzon psiloetron, known from East Kalimantan. Anybody got a picture of that?
Martin.
Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 12:46 pm
Mmmm..
The closest in terms of a combination of body and head pattern, and mouth morphology is G. cranbrooki. However, the pattern on the fins are different and the head shape seems more extended on your fish. Some Bornean Suckers have different fin colours depending on the gender, and I think the head shape can differ also between the genders. Closest I can find is G. cranbrooki but by no means definite.
The closest in terms of a combination of body and head pattern, and mouth morphology is G. cranbrooki. However, the pattern on the fins are different and the head shape seems more extended on your fish. Some Bornean Suckers have different fin colours depending on the gender, and I think the head shape can differ also between the genders. Closest I can find is G. cranbrooki but by no means definite.
Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:26 pm
Amazing fish! Wonderful photos, Emma.
Mike
Mike
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 1:41 am
Wow Emma that is just beautiful, absolutely stunning
If you don't take it home I certainly would love to
If you don't take it home I certainly would love to
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:25 am
Thank you for your help once again, TDO. Jayne, you are more than welcome to purchase him for your tank, I did reserve all the 'stripy' ones for you after all.
Emma
Jayne, you are more than welcome to purchase him for your tank, I did reserve all the 'stripy' ones for you after all. Emma
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 1:06 pm
Looking at Tan's book, there are several possibilities, with many of the same or similar characteristics.
>cranbrooki-right pattern, gold sheen on fins(no mention of yellow), but it has a secondary rostrum which yours does not.
>fasciatus-similar pattern, gold sheen on fins (no mention of yellow).
>lepidogaster-similar pattern, description mentions wide variation of color and patterns. This range of color includes orange edges of fins and yellowish-green fins in some specimens.
>embalohensis-similar pattern, yellow fins on female, red on male. Wrong number of bars on caudal fin.
So, you can see how confusing this can be with so many similar species.
I would be nice if Dr. Tan could take a look at this fish.
>cranbrooki-right pattern, gold sheen on fins(no mention of yellow), but it has a secondary rostrum which yours does not.
>fasciatus-similar pattern, gold sheen on fins (no mention of yellow).
>lepidogaster-similar pattern, description mentions wide variation of color and patterns. This range of color includes orange edges of fins and yellowish-green fins in some specimens.
>embalohensis-similar pattern, yellow fins on female, red on male. Wrong number of bars on caudal fin.
So, you can see how confusing this can be with so many similar species.
I would be nice if Dr. Tan could take a look at this fish.
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 1:20 pm
I will send him an email and ask if he is able to take a look for us.
Emma
Emma
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 1:36 pm
I have a similar ID problem, although the fish aren't as nice looking.
I still have not been able to get a good pic of the two zebrinus-like gastros I picked up some months ago. I am considering moving them from quarentine, to the main river tank soon, so maybe I can get pics of them then.
I still have not been able to get a good pic of the two zebrinus-like gastros I picked up some months ago. I am considering moving them from quarentine, to the main river tank soon, so maybe I can get pics of them then.