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Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 9:38 am
by tender
Ok!
Thanks for the info, everybody

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 5:03 pm
by Jim Powers
Here are two hitrionicas I had a few years back. The larger one kept her markings and color while the smaller (male?) did not.
Here they are hanging out with a botia dario while two sinobotia pulchra and two other darios look on from their cave.

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 5:22 pm
by tender
That is one beautiful fish, Jim
I wish Histrionicas like that were available in my country
Could it be an idea to add a pic with this coloration in the species index?
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 9:29 pm
by plaalye
Great pic Jim. Do you think it's possible that they took on the gold color to blend with the substrate.
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:06 am
by Jim Powers
They had the yellow color when I got them as juveniles and kept it as adults. The female kept more color than the male. I always assumed it was either because of their diet or some sort of regional characteristic, but that's just a guess.
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:28 am
by Doc
I had a look at the picture in the Loach book and after a good 5 minute inspection I don't think the fish is as golden coloured as we all assume.. Looking at the back quarter of the fish I would say the fish has a subtle hint of pale cream colour and the bright gold may well be just be enhanced by the fact the fish is in part shade.
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 6:47 am
by The.Dark.One
There are at least 2 if not 3 regional variants of 'histrionica' (see my article on the subject).
Whether they all turn out to be the same or are actually different species we may find out soon. I understand that we can expect some new Botias soon

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:13 pm
by Ashleigh
The.Dark.One wrote: I understand that we can expect some new Botias soon

One cannot make a statement like this with without sharing more
Ashleigh
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 6:03 am
by The.Dark.One
I've been aware for some time that Botiids of Myanmar and possibly surrounding region are being worked on. I expect new species, but could be wrong.
Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 2:18 pm
by palaeodave
The.Dark.One wrote:I've been aware for some time that Botiids of Myanmar and possibly surrounding region are being worked on. I expect new species, but could be wrong.
I randomly got talking to someone at the NHM a while back. We got talking about fish and it turns out that he works on loach systematics. Wish I could remember his name. Could he be who you're talking about?
Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 2:31 pm
by Emma Turner
Maybe you were talking to The.Dark.One himself, Dave?!
Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 5:04 pm
by bfulton
Hi, Where would I find articles from TDO? I looked on here but couldn't come up with it. I'm interested in his regional variations of the species as he mentioned about - histronica.
thanks!
Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 5:55 pm
by palaeodave
Emma Turner wrote:Maybe you were talking to The.Dark.One himself, Dave?!
Does TDO work at the NHM London?!
Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 7:11 pm
by Emma Turner
I believe he has access for all things ichthyological at the NHM (he will correct me if I am wrong).

He may not thank me for telling you, but his human pseudonym is Steven Grant.
Emma
Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 6:51 am
by The.Dark.One
I wish I did work at the NHM!!!! No, unfortunately I am an amateur, although the NHM is very helpful with me and provides access to stuff.
No, the person I am talking about doesn't work at NHM. I can't really say as I was told in confidence. I think it will be appearing in Zootaxa though and may not be too long now. I don't think my article will get a mention though, or if it does it may get a caning because of its limited scientific scope (lack of hard accurate data on specimens - I only got to use images, because of my job I couldn't get the time to actually go and accurately examine specimens). However, it was a start!
bfulton - send me a pm with your email address and I will send you a copy.