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Posted: **Sun Jul 16, 2006 10:26 am**

Cheers, Emma. Here's one with the 'Elvis' lip!

I thinks we need to dig deep and find out what we have here.

Posted: **Sun Jul 16, 2006 10:27 am**

Another great pic!!!

I'm onto it!

Posted: **Sun Jul 16, 2006 10:36 am**

I've just checked the Sewellia PDF and the underside looks very similar to the Sewellia speciosa. Side view picture look like them also. But above picture tells you that it's not. At least it's a Sewellia species.

Good luck Emma.

Posted: **Sun Jul 16, 2006 10:45 am**

Thnaks for that Emma

Posted: **Sun Jul 16, 2006 1:23 pm**

Graeme, you've probably already got my e-mail by now, but just to let everyone know that HH thinks these are either an undescribed species of Sewellia or a possible Sinogastromyzon species. He is rather busy at present, but am hoping he'll help us look into this further sometime soon. (thanks HH!)

Emma

Posted: **Sun Jul 16, 2006 1:31 pm**

Thats a great start.

They do remind me of the lovely Sinogastromyzon wui with Sewellia patterns.

Thanks Emma.

Posted: **Sun Jul 16, 2006 1:54 pm**

If you look down this list,

http://fish.mongabay.com/data/VietNam.htm

.......you'll find some possible suspects, but I don't think they're Sinogastromyzon, the reason being (if you look at the Sino species here on LOL) is that the mouth is the wrong shape.....too big.

Martin.

Posted: **Sun Jul 16, 2006 5:59 pm**

Oops! I'm off

Posted: **Sun Jul 16, 2006 6:32 pm**

Oh no! Now it's the MotoSewellia Diaries!

Martin.

Posted: **Mon Jul 17, 2006 2:53 am**

Emma Turner wrote: just to let everyone know that HH thinks these are either an undescribed species of Sewellia or a possible Sinogastromyzon species. (thanks HH!)
Emma

They reminded me a bit of Sinogastromyzon Wui from that very first picture in the 'Strange Sewellia' thread, purely becouse of its huge width. The mouth in the underside pic clinches it as Sewellia of some kind though, I would have thought. Be interesting to find out for def.

Emma,

Yeah, I'll take two please!! It'll probably be late next week (fri/sat).

Emma / Graham,

Have you noticed any sexual dimorphism simular to that seen in S. Lineolata?

Posted: **Mon Jul 17, 2006 5:43 am**

Gary Herring wrote:Have you noticed any sexual dimorphism simular to that seen in S. Lineolata?

While i was in Emma's store, we did try to see if there was a simular sexual dimorphism. And at home i've been looking closely but unfortunately i cant see any. Maybe it's just my 3. Emma might have a better chance with a tank full of them.

Posted: **Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:02 am**

Gary Herring wrote: Emma,

Yeah, I'll take two please!! It'll probably be late next week (fri/sat).

Emma / Graham,

Have you noticed any sexual dimorphism simular to that seen in S. Lineolata?

No probs, Gary. Steve & I have time off all this week (although will be going in Tues night to take care of fish shipments), and I just realised that I forgot to take the 'not yet ready for sale' label off the Spotted Sewellia tank after Graeme had picked out his fish.

I'll keep them off sale until you come over and pick some out yourself. Got to pick out some more for myself too!

Whilst we're sorting out the fish on Tues night, I'll have another good look at the Spotties for any sexual dimorphism. I did notice the raised areas on the front of the pecs (as in the male S. lineolata), but I haven't had a good look to see if there are any Spotties (females?) without this. I'll see what I can find out....

Emma

Posted: **Mon Jul 17, 2006 6:14 pm**

What a fantastic retailer you are! Harold did exactly that with the Sewellia lineolata for me. Not For Sale Yet till Martin got his pick.....I love having a good working hobby relationship with a trusted retailer.

I won't ask you to hold any for me till I can make it over though

As regards sexual dimorphism....Remember mine all looked the same for a while. I noticed the other day that the male seemed to be shedding its pectoral "fences". I recall reading that they shed tubercules too, so wasn't suprised. He had a piece of the rearmost "fence" on each fin flapping in the current.

Today is.....as Airman Adrian Cronauer might say.....

"The weather out there is hot and sh***y, with continued hot and sh***y in the afternoon. Tomorrow a chance of continued crappy weather. A pissy weather front coming down from the north. Basically it's hotter than a snake's ass in a wagon rut."

Which is why my Sewellia currently enjoy (I hope) 85.5F in their unheated tank, while the 65 gallon River-Tank festers at 84.4F. I'm expecting to find little guys in black pyjamas taking pot shots at me.....all I'm missing is the jungle.

http://www.uselessmoviequotes.com/files/goodmorn.wav

Martin.

Posted: **Tue Jul 18, 2006 2:38 am**

Martin Thoene wrote:What a fantastic retailer you are! Harold did exactly that with the Sewellia lineolata for me. Not For Sale Yet till Martin got his pick.....I love having a good working hobby relationship with a trusted retailer.
Martin.

Absolutely!!! And it is much appreciated Emma, thank you.

Thats quite a long time to hold them off sale though - are you sure you don't mind? If not, just save me two an I'll be more than happy!

Posted: **Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:02 pm**

Honestly, Gary, it's not a problem!

Let us know nearer the time when you might be coming in, and if it's on a weekend day (which I don't work) I'll try to pop in and say hello this time!