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Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 6:17 pm
by Mike Ophir
Yea, I think I will get some, they are just too hard to resist....although who knows how much $ I will have left for my other life-related neccessities like food.....ah well.

Mike

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 6:27 pm
by BotiaMaximus
Could be Ramen Noodle time, but I have to admire your style Mike! Bravo! 8)

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 6:46 pm
by Mike Ophir
Haha, thanks Maximus. I will keep you updated how my escapades go...

Mike

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 9:29 pm
by newshound
aaahhh who needs to pay rent, car payments etc... :wink:

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 4:51 am
by topline
I wish that here in Australia the issue was the price. Here it is availability and government regulations on imports which means that even Striata (when they slip through the net) cost AU$80+

I dont thing these will ever be seen here....

Brian :(

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 2:37 pm
by BotiaMaximus
Topline, we've got some regs heading our way that are going to make the importing here tougher as well. Part of it is needed - I have a backyard full of cane-toads myself now.

I new Australia and New Zealand had some tough rules, but not that tough. How do they allow clowns, but not striata? Is it just political, or is there a scientific basic for the regulations?

Our solution here is hopefully going to be captive breeding done here in the states. We have a lot of it already. I am hoping this technique the Indonesian Govt. is working on with clowns holds promise for that and other species of loaches. This involves patenting the process and selling licenses to use it. This way the Indonesians could still generate much needed revenue and we could have legal fish without depleting wild populations.

It of course is much more complicated than that brief summary, but hopefully something in that direction can work towards everyone's benefit.

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 7:51 pm
by topline
BotiaMaximus.. have a loot here to see what we are up against..
http://www.perthcichlid.com.au/forum/in ... opic=20326

Cheers
Brian

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 2:53 am
by carcinoma
are there any other vendors in the US that would carry these?

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:33 am
by BotiaMaximus
topline wrote:BotiaMaximus.. have a loot here to see what we are up against..
http://www.perthcichlid.com.au/forum/in ... opic=20326

Cheers
Brian
Thanks for the link Brian.

Those regs don't look too far off from what is on the table here in the US. The invasive species problem is at the heart of it, we have quite a few loose in our waterways as well. This is due to a very small number of uneducated fools turning their pets loose when they don't know what to do with them, but the problem is real.

I hope it doesn't come down to the Fish Police going door to door and confiscating and destroying our pets - that seems a lot over the top!!

Some of the posts in that link touched on the need for the fish to be sterilized in order to be safely made available to hobbyists. This sounds unpleasant to have to do to each fish and would probably have a high mortality rate, I'd like to think there was a way it could be done as part of the breeding that would only produce infertile offspring - don't know if that is possible??

It seems that sooner or later some form of this type of captive breeding will be the future of the hobby. I'd like to think if done right it could be a positive thing.

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:37 am
by BotiaMaximus
carcinoma wrote:are there any other vendors in the US that would carry these?
I think any vendor would be able to carry them, it would be the breeders that would pay the licensing fees for the right to breed the fish using the patented technology and possibly I assume a per fish royalty.

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:17 pm
by boggyegg
Graeme Robson wrote:Ahhh!!!!!!!! :o

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 10:50 pm
by Mike Ophir
Looks like I am getting 7 of these guys....god, what am I getting into?

Mike

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:12 pm
by BotiaMaximus
Looks like you are getting into 7 little nuggets of pure joy!!! 8)

Congratulations!!! :D

Please put up some pics when you get these guys settled in! :D

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:48 pm
by Mike Ophir
Of course, photos will be up soon after there arrival! I should be receiving them a week from this thursday......

Mike

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:52 am
by Mad Duff
Congratulations Mike, I am sure you will enjoy them :D