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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 1:03 pm
by mamaschild
They look great Martin :D

Sounds like you like a lot of the same things I do about the camera ;)

Mines only the A630, but it's 8Mp and does great macros :):)

I'm gonna post an example in the Freshwater section ;)

Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 1:22 pm
by Mark in Vancouver
Nice stuff. Congrats on the overdue new camera.

Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 9:40 am
by katt
[quote="Martin Thoene"]Botiine boys...............

One of the Czech-bred [i]histrionicas[/i]

Martin.[/quote]

He really looks like a CL, but for the colour.

I`ve never seen one befor. can I for alittle info on it Please. :)

And Excellent pictures... by the way !!!!

Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 10:03 am
by Martin Thoene
Well katt, I got 6 of these from another fishkeeper. He found them to be extremely hyper and constantly annoying other fish, so wanted rid of them.

I know where they came from and saw others of the shipment in the shop. These guys were growing at an alarming rate and rapidly overtook the fish still in the shop. They grew quickly to around 2.5 inches then slowed right down.

You are right in your mention of Clown Loach. We had a lot of speculation going on here as to what their genetic makeup is. The reason for this is that Czech fish breeders are notorious for hybridizing species.

Even as youngsters these fish had proportions far more like Clown loaches than young histrionica, almorhae, kubotai or rostrata. They also were quite orange in general body colour and had noticeable red in the fins. They have matured into fish that rather resemble the "Emporer" Botia from the Tennasserim River:

Image 2.5"

Image 5"

Image Mine @ 2.5"

Lately, their stripes have started to diffuse somewhat. I am going to create an article on LOL showing their development stages as we have for other similar species. Steve (The Dark One) is going to use the pics in his paper that he is writing on this group of fishes as well.

Behaviour wize, I've never experienced the antisocial nature that Pablo reported while he owned them. They are absolutely the most up-front Botia species that I've ever owned and they are very interactive with me.

As possible hybrids they represent a dilemna to me as I'm very against that kind of thing. When Botia are so difficult to breed what is the point of mixing species genes? However, they are very nice fish and I like them a lot. Whatever ther genes might be they are nice pets.

Martin.

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 5:17 am
by dlenn
Great pictures Martin,

I'm so jealous. You guys take such great pictures, I'm lucky if I get a very clear picture by chance. I guess practice makes perfect eh?

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 9:40 am
by LoachOrgy
wow very detailed pics. i can tell a big difference. :D