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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:53 am
by Graeme Robson
No problemo Emma.

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:24 am
by chefkeith
Great pics and info. At first glance I thought they would be timid.
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 5:01 am
by loachmom
Great photos, Emma. Lovely fish!

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:59 am
by The.Dark.One
I havent got it in front of me at the moment, but I seem to remember that Tyson Roberts called the Indonesian species
diabolica because of the red eyes and forked tail

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:58 pm
by piggy4
Just picked up half a dozen of these from Pier Aquatics , stunning !
Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 10:14 am
by Graeme Robson
Whats the common name of these
Barbucca sp again?
Sumatran Scooter Loach
I think i know partly why these are called this.
They Walk!!...yup! I've seen mine do this and Andy has also! They use their
pectoral fins to walk around on large pebbles and cobbles. It's totally fascinating to watch!

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 7:16 am
by The.Dark.One
Hi All
I noticed an interesting point in the
diabolica description. For the type series most are from the archipelago, but one/some seems to be from the mainland.
So either they are the same or Roberts may have two species within his type series.

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:37 am
by mikev
There is another mismatch: the size of the species in LOL index is 1", in fishbase.org entry it is 2.3cm (ref: Roberts 1989), but the animals being imported now are apparently larger. May be significant.
Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 12:11 pm
by mikev
Does anyone have a good idea of the appropriate environment for these guys?
I don't think they need hillstream tank in any sense -- they share habitats with Clowns. But putting them with Clowns in a large tank does not seem smart...
Is anyone who has them willing to describe the tank they are kept in?
Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 12:36 pm
by Graeme Robson
Like Clowns and many other loaches, a currant is preferred. I keep mine in a Brook/Hillstream tank set-up. Basically you take a small chunk of the habitat similar to the Clowns and simulate this in a smaller environment if you want to keep these separate.
With the wording smart i presume you mean that your or anyone's purchase will be effective in viewings. If so then a small Brook/Hillstream set-up would be advisable.
Smaller loaches have different characteristics when facing flowing waters, compared to larger loaches, so for me these are Brook/Hillstream loaches with the looks and actions of one.
Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 1:17 pm
by mikev
The way they stick to the walls looks very hillstreamish indeed.
smart also referred to their ability to find food, I'm not sure they can compete against larger loaches too well.
Whom do you keep yours with?
The three roomie species I've been considering are
Rosies
L.Thermalis
Aborychthis
Kuhlis probably will work too...
What is your feeling about the best choice here?
Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 6:58 pm
by Graeme Robson
I shan't comment as i keep mine alone with Drape fin Barbs in a 20gal.
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 5:52 am
by piggy4
Hi Mikev, just for the record ,mine are kept in an unheated 4ft tank ,with an internal Fluval4, sand and gravel base, smooth rounded stones ,pebbles , and some Beech wood,the fish list is 12 Homaloptera Zollingeri, 5 Gastromyzon Ctenocephalus, 3 Indonesian Gobies , the orangy ones with 2 or 3 bluish bands, [name escapes me ] and lastly 6 of the Babucca ,the Homalopteras are very shy ! although since i put the Babucca's in they are slightly more gregarious, VERY SLIGHTLY, i must say i really enjoy watching this tank !
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 11:07 am
by mikev
Thanks piggy4!
This is very helpful, so true hillstream setup is an option after all....
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 11:57 am
by piggy4
Milev, i'm not certain that this is the proper way ? but so far [it is early] so good, are you gonna give them a try ?