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oliv wrote: This time about 20 % of caviar female Chromobotia macracanthus was activated male Botia lohachata and now hybrids grow

I thought this would happen. Dear, oh dear.

Emma

oliv wrote:This time about 20 % of caviar female Chromobotia macracanthus was activated male Botia lohachata and now hybrids grow

Emma Turner wrote:

oliv wrote: This time about 20 % of caviar female Chromobotia macracanthus was activated male Botia lohachata and now hybrids grow

I thought this would happen. Dear, oh dear.

Emma

If it is not pleasant to you, why at you on the image of a structure and in the signature of a photo of a hybrid???
I do it with the purpose of reception of interesting variants of colouring, as on your photo

oliv wrote: If it is not pleasant to you, why at you on the image of a structure and in the signature of a photo of a hybrid???
I do it with the purpose of reception of interesting variants of colouring, as on your photo

The fish in the photo was wild caught. She is now 12" long and is most definitely not a hybrid.

Emma

Believe, I saw and not such variants of colouring, large is owing to hybrid power
And that is caught in a nature, it is possible to keep and to fill up a population of a wild fish, for the further production, a fish from fish farms let out in natural reservoirs for cultivation, about it is better to ask the Asian farmers

Hi Oliv,

Congratulations on what you got!

I watched the 3 movies. Clown one is perfect but other two fry is too small to be recognized. Hope you post a newer video as soon as possible for us to see this new Clown/Lohachata breeding.

Best wishes!

oliv wrote:...and now hybrids grow

What's the point Oliv? почему???

oliv wrote:Believe, I saw and not such variants of colouring, large is owing to hybrid power
And that is caught in a nature, it is possible to keep and to fill up a population of a wild fish, for the further production, a fish from fish farms let out in natural reservoirs for cultivation, about it is better to ask the Asian farmers

Rubbish.
How long has the successful hybridisation of botiid species been happening? The fish in my picture was grown on from a small wild-caught specimen. We know approximately how old she is and she would have been taken from the wild a long time before any of this cultivation of hybrid loaches has taken place.

Emma

oliv wrote:This time about 20 % of caviar female Chromobotia macracanthus was activated male Botia lohachata and now hybrids grow

Such a shame

The purpose of tank breeding should be to relieve any burdens on wild stocks.

Knowing that hybrids are being actively sought after by breeders is only going to push me to purchase stock that I know is wild caught. The knock on effect of this of course, is that the breeder choosing to selectively breed hybrids will not, ever get my business. The internet is a hugely successful resource for loach keepers, and hopefully with websites like Loaches.com providing so much information, and being so accessible, anyone researching a loach purchase will be savvy enough to check the source of the stock at the lfs. I will happily pay premium prices for fish I know are either wild-caught or farmed without fear of hybridisation. If I can't be assured of its status I will not buy.......ever.

Bully wrote:

oliv wrote:This time about 20 % of caviar female Chromobotia macracanthus was activated male Botia lohachata and now hybrids grow

Such a shame

The purpose of tank breeding should be to relieve any burdens on wild stocks.

Knowing that hybrids are being actively sought after by breeders is only going to push me to purchase stock that I know is wild caught. The knock on effect of this of course, is that the breeder choosing to selectively breed hybrids will not, ever get my business. The internet is a hugely successful resource for loach keepers, and hopefully with websites like Loaches.com providing so much information, and being so accessible, anyone researching a loach purchase will be savvy enough to check the source of the stock at the lfs. I will happily pay premium prices for fish I know are either wild-caught or farmed without fear of hybridisation. If I can't be assured of its status I will not buy.......ever.

You're giving the general aquarist too much credit. Some are knowledgeable but most shop with their eyes or buy loaches to eat snails. The breeding source and genetic purity is superfluous to most. Hybrids might actually relieve wild populations.

Marcos Mataratzis wrote:Hi Oliv,

Congratulations on what you got!

I watched the 3 movies. Clown one is perfect but other two fry is too small to be recognized. Hope you post a newer video as soon as possible for us to see this new Clown/Lohachata breeding.

Best wishes!

Hi Marcos!

Adult

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1,5 months

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2 weeks

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Emma, excuse, at me it is bad with English, and I have not understood that you wanted to tell
Among agricultural animals there is a set very useful to the man animal - hybrids, I am engaged in selection, it is a science and in this area a continuous white stain, and your conservatism is not clear to me, Englishmen all such???

andre wrote:

oliv wrote:...and now hybrids grow

What's the point Oliv? почему???

Without it it is not interesting to live and to work, I am constant in search, a fish you see decorative, recently I try to receive a hybrid capable to transfer low temperatures, our Russian winter, I work with Misgurnus fossilis, can be the Clown will help also

Hello Oliv,

Thanks for new videos. You said you have hybridize Clown loaches with lohachata loach and send a video named Klown_lichinka.mp4 but fry is too small for us to see. I´m asking you to send a newer video of them as they are getting bigger. Videos you just sent are from Clown loach parents and baby clown. I wish to see clown+lohachata (lichinka) babys as they get old.

Regards,

Marcos

Marcos Mataratzis wrote:Hello Oliv,

I wish to see clown+lohachata (lichinka) babys as they get old.

Regards,

Marcos

I have added still video 2 weeks, fry of a hybrid while than differs from a hybrid, only little bit more largly and grows very non-uniformly, it is necessary to sort, unfortunately there is no equipment to make a qualitative video, excuse
If only tomorrow I shall do a photo

To hybrid while two weeks, will grow up slightly, that will turn out we shall see!