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Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:37 am
by plaalye
The density is surprising. I wonder if that's normal or if they're gathered for breeding?

Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:09 am
by tyrano34
hello
This is global warming, that's why you see this species move.

Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:34 am
by odyssey
Hi!
Matt wrote: It doesn't appear to be any of the described species known to occur in the Ryukyu Islands?
Stiphodon of this non-mention has been carried from the south to Okinawa by the Kuroshio Current.
Though Okinawa is the subtropical zone, there are few rivers which are warm so as they spend winter, and to be able to survive.
http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fil:Ocean_current_2004.jpg
Probably it is supposed that the center of their habitation is Philippine somewhere.
Unfortunately there seems to be very little information about the Philippine freshwater fish.
A fresh water aquarium fish from the Philippines does not occur to me, but how about you?

In Okinawa, two kinds of unclear Stiphodon is discovered more.
I heard that they seem to resemble a kind of "Rainbow-color".
plaalye wrote:The density is surprising. I wonder if that's normal or if they're gathered for breeding?
I think that they do not gather for breeding.
In the river having high their habitation density, an alga grows thick very much.
In fact, such a river is not a clean river with nature on.
Because the manure from the home drainage and farming place flows, the river eutrophicates it moderately.

Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 1:30 pm
by wasserscheu
many thanks for keep maintaining this outstanding thread Odyssey - love your photographs

Cheers

Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:44 am
by akdylpickles
Hi Odyssey, I was wondering if you could identify this goby for me. Thanks.
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Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:08 am
by plaalye
Hi there. I'm not odyssey, but your fish is an African sicydium species. Not sure which one. Possibly s. crenilabrum.

Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:22 am
by odyssey
Hi! akdylpickles.
Thanks plaalye.

I keep the goby same as your goby for one year, too.
They were sold in the names to be called an African rock goby.
Probably I think that it is Sicydium crenilabrum inhabiting Cameroon.

Display sequence of last year's thread was raised, so please check it.
http://forums.loaches.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=22302

Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:46 pm
by akdylpickles
Thank you! :) Is there a way to tell between males and females? Id really like to get another.

Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 9:31 pm
by plaalye
It's pretty obvious if they are mature. Males have longer dorsals and more color. Have a look here.

http://www.seriouslyfish.com/forums/ind ... n+sicydium

Looking at odysseys's pics maybe it's not so obvious? Or maybe there are no mature males in those pics? I bought 2 more recently that look more like the "males" in the link I supplied. No pics yet, still in quarantine. I'm assuming they're the same sp. but I have no origin for either of mine. These are new to the hobby as far as I know so nothing is for sure. Mine are the best algae scrubbers (along with sicyopterus) that I've had. Very easy going. They love current and well oxygenated water.

Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:29 pm
by akdylpickles
Is the african rock goby safe with shrimp? Like crs?

Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:02 am
by odyssey
The shrimp lives together with an African rock goby with my water tank more than one year.
The number of shrimps does not decrease.

Stiphodon and Sicyoputerus are harmless for a shrimp.
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Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 3:45 am
by odyssey
Hi everyone.

I think that plural species are mixed in the "Rainbow" stiphodon sold most commonly.
Though I cannot distinguish them, I think that the female can distinguish a congeneric male.
I have the female of the big rainbow.
The female is the individual which ever photographed a courtship scene with the "Rainbow" male.
Because the male had died, I added small rainbow males about one year ago, but was indifference each other.

I thought that the small males were still immature at first, but the male body changed black and came to approach small S.percnopterygionus female.
The male may have possibly already are mature.
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I added a newly slightly bigger rainbow male last month.
The female was in heat immediately and changed the color of the body and appealed to the male hard.
Stripes of the female body has been obscured by excitement.
Neophyte's male is just confused at a female hard appeal for the moment, but I look forward to their future.
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Small "Rainbow" male.
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New bigger "Rainbow" male.
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Big "Rainbow" female.
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Small "Rainbow" male and new bigger "Rainbow" male.
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The following photographs are pairing scenes two years ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYMS6zAOLjc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvNIYLiI244
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Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:17 am
by NancyD
Great new pics odyssey! Thanks to your wonderful thread I now have 2 pairs of stiphodon percnopterygionus along with 3 gastromyzon ctenocephalus. I would have been nervous of being able to feed them but these fish had learned to eat a new gel food for auf wuchs grazers before I got them. It's called Repashy Superfoods Soilent Green, I'm not sure if it's only in the US. They do have some different types of algae available but not in the quantity the fish would need.

I already want a few more species of both gobies & loaches. Soon I will get some sewellia lineolata F2 young from a breeder...then who knows? Thank you for the inspiration & sharing your knowledge & pics of these cool fish.

Color change of Stiphodon

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:11 am
by odyssey
Hi NancyD!

You breed stiphodon percnopterygionus, too!
I am glad to know that you breed S.percnopterygionus.
S.percnopterygionu is a vegetable diet most as far as I know about stiphodon genus.
Thank you for valuable information of the substitute food of the algae which is their staple food.
I was able to find some pages and videos by Internet search.
http://www.azaquaticplants.com/communit ... p?p=160063
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUdMQKXL2vE

Will the bait of these two videos be the same as the above, too?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MA3b3Ja8O0c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-R_ssrPvO_U

It depends on an individual, but I think that the male of S.percnopterygionus is a species to change thier color of the body most intensely.
Following all pictures are states of the metachrosis of the same male individual.
It changes a color of the body most intensely so far in S.percnopterygionus which I kept.

A mosaic of the 4-minute metachrosis.
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Color of the body of the normal feeling.
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Color of the body that was dressed up.
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Color of the body of the courtship to a female.
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Color of the body of the courtship peak
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Color of the body of a threat, the anger.
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Color of the body of unknown feeling.
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I will travel to Philippine from the weekend.
Rare Stiphodon may come out if I make it good.

Re: Stiphodon genus of the Goby

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:59 am
by NancyD
Thanks for the perc pics, odyssey. I think my dominant male shows angry coloring often toward the other male, lol.

Here's a place that can ship Repashy Soilent Green internationally if you want to try it http://www.kensfish.com/repashy-super-food.html. You can vary the amount of water to change the consistancy a bit. I haven't had good luck getting it to stay on rocks or wood for long, I use small dishes for now.