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Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 12:08 am
by Graeme Robson

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 8:29 am
by Emma Turner
Me too! Pass the 'Anadin Extra'! :lol:

Mike - if you read back through the thread you will see that the fish came in directly from India. This supplier only supplies native fishes. It was in with a bag full of Botia almorhae.

Emma

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 12:07 pm
by Mike Ophir
Oh ok....wow...interesting...I don't know what to say anymore, haha.

Mike

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 4:28 pm
by helen nightingale
thank you all for scratching your heads for me! i have just clicked on the link to petfrd - thats great. thanks for asking and discussing.

i am wondering about [/i]B. birdii - the picture sort of looks like it could be right, and so far ive not seen pictures of rostrata anything like the mystery loach. i think i will do some digging around :D

can you get bulk boxes of e-anandin? i think we could all do with some.

is that article Polish? its a bugger we dont have any polish staff at work at the moment - they quite often speak several langauges.

it seems like this will be hard to get to the bottom of. if he snuffs it, maybe he should be pickled and then chopped up to see if we can find out that way :?

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 1:22 pm
by Emma Turner
Updated pics of Helen's mystery (possible B. birdii) loach :D ....

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Emma

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 3:14 pm
by Graeme Robson
What a fantastic looking fella! 8)

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 4:35 pm
by Jim Powers
What a beauty!!!
Now what is it? :?

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 5:49 pm
by sophie
do you know, the more I look at this thread, the more confused I become.

Helen, the site actually belongs to Bogdan, who has contributed to LOL, so if anyone know how to get in touch?? (site is here: http://www.bocje.com/)

is b birdii basically a very very reticulated yoyo? yoyos confuse me; I've got four. two are longer and slimmer, proportionally, with silver bodies with nice clean yoyo patterns that don't go under the stomach. Two of them are more rounded, with goldy-greyish backgrounds and very reticulated patterns that do meet under the stomach. They all come from the same shipment, though whether they came direct form anywhere I don't know. The classic yoyo ones look, for wnat of a better description, more "juvenile" than the other two, but like I said, I got them all at the same time and the same size... Now thta almorhae and lochata are the same species I'd just assumed yoyos were very very variable, but the two reticulated ones I have look more like pictures of b birdii. Helen's looks like the mutant offspring of birdii and a kubotai :?

all Very Odd.
I think we should get in touch with Bogdan...

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 6:05 pm
by shari2
In my limited and somewhat truncated experience with yoyos it seemed that the females matured faster than the males in a marked way. They gained the goldy grey, reticulated and rounder shape rather quickly, while the males retained their slim shape, silver/black yoyo pattern much longer (several months passed before I noticed they even started changing).

this is just my assumption on sexing them since I actually did a post mortem on the one I thought was female and confirmed the fact definitively when I found eggs.

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 8:18 pm
by Mark in Vancouver
sophie wrote:do you know, the more I look at this thread, the more confused I become.

Helen, the site actually belongs to Bogdan, who has contributed to LOL, so if anyone know how to get in touch?? (site is here: http://www.bocje.com/)

is b birdii basically a very very reticulated yoyo? yoyos confuse me; I've got four. two are longer and slimmer, proportionally, with silver bodies with nice clean yoyo patterns that don't go under the stomach. Two of them are more rounded, with goldy-greyish backgrounds and very reticulated patterns that do meet under the stomach. They all come from the same shipment, though whether they came direct form anywhere I don't know. The classic yoyo ones look, for wnat of a better description, more "juvenile" than the other two, but like I said, I got them all at the same time and the same size... Now thta almorhae and lochata are the same species I'd just assumed yoyos were very very variable, but the two reticulated ones I have look more like pictures of b birdii. Helen's looks like the mutant offspring of birdii and a kubotai :?

all Very Odd.
I think we should get in touch with Bogdan...
Bogdan is very knowledgable about loaches. Just very hard to reach sometimes. And I can't get past his front page on the website.

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 2:01 pm
by Emma Turner

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 2:15 pm
by helen nightingale
i have found his email - the site is working at the moment! i will i understood Polish though

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 4:19 pm
by helen nightingale
i have been trying to translate Bogdan's info on B. birdii from the link that Sophie gave, using an internet translation site. it gave the site a headache too, so it gave up, but untill that point, the article seems to be talking a bit about badgers and kangaroos :shock:

the picture on petfrd that i saw the other day looks like an interesting almorhae. what do you think?

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 5:12 pm
by sophie
Helen - don't use those electronic transltors, they are good only for a giggle.

Before I decided to give up any hope of a sensible income and began woking with children I worked for a translation agency and I can tell you that there is absolutely no way that an electronic translator can manage anything except text where all the words have only one possible meaning. You'd be better off with a good dictionary and someone who knows something about language, even if nothing about polish... There's a reason that getting things translated is expensive, and that's because it's specialist, time-consuming and difficult :(

are there no polish speakers here at all?

Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 5:18 am
by helen nightingale
you are right, and it did give me a giggle :lol: